# Present evidence for the existence of your deity

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**Created:** [April 23, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/present-evidence-for-the-existence-of-your-deity/619737 "2012-04-23T19:45:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 25, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/present-evidence-for-the-existence-of-your-deity/619737/325 "2012-04-25T16:10:59Z")

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> [@Meatros](#):
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> You are misinterpreting him fairly badly. He said it’s **possible** it’s all fiction, he did not say that **he thought it was**.

I never said that he was claiming that the Bible was all fiction. Regardless, it came across as a reversal from his previous position. I believe a more honest position is that atheists NEED the Bible to be a work of fiction.

> [@Meatros](#):
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> This is a statement of faith.

What, I take it on faith that archeaology supports the Bible? I guess the scholars could be lying, but I’m sure the skeptics would be on them like white on rice if they tried to fake Bible evidence.

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> Real names and places - this is disputable - there is some evidence to suggest that characters such as Lazarus and Barabbas were invented.

Right so the Bible doesn’t contain real names and places. Umm ok, archaeology says otherwise.

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> But aside from that - real names and places do not mean that the miracles occurred (do you believe Vespasian did miracles?).  
> Archaeological finds do not support the Bible’s narrative in all cases - this has been brought up already (flood, exodus).

So now scholars must discover finds that support every single story in the Bible or it’s all a work of fiction? And if it is semi-fictional, one must wonder why the story was fabricated. Funny skeptics never do that. Even more funny, why would these fiction writers create Bible heroes so flawed and even despicable? Even the great King David is shown in all his sinful nature. The guy actually had an innocent loyal soldier murdered so he could have sex with his wife. Not a flattering portrayal of someone that you want recorded as the King of Israel.

Another problem with finding extra-biblical texts of the Exodus is that rulers like the Egyptians didn’t like to record embarrassing defeats. A race of slaves bending the will of Pharoh? Umm, no didn’t happen. Kings wanted to be painted in the best light possible especially in Egypt where rulers were seen as gods.

Lack of evidence does not prove that the flood or Exodus never occured. It just means there is a lack of evidence. There are limitations on what you can prove with ancient events.

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