I addressed the “evidence” position that you allude to in other posts. We have also addressed that in another thread.
So, why didnt you call out all these other posters for being off topic? Obviously youre a fair minded individual who wants to be a fair mini-moderator…
You must not know much about Christianity. God never promised us a life without suffering. If God fixed or prevent every single problem or illness then death would not occur. But man commited sin and brought sin and death into this world. The event also gave Satan some freedom in this realm to torment people.
God didn’t give me these problems. These are events that defy scientific explanation. The atheist is only left to scramble and resort to the default explanation, “oh that person must be a liar!”
I disagree with your response. This is how I would phrase it.
I think we have to look at the meaning of life itself. If the meaning of life is to suffer and overcome hardships in order to grow spiritually. God knows that life has events of hardship, such as crushed legs. A soft life leads to no growth. We are here to grow.
I do not believe that God crushed the mans legs. I believe a random event did.
Yes, you can. There is a giant octopus in your wallet. Go check. We’ll wait.
Evidently you do not understand what goalpost shifting even means. In a nutshell it is exactly when someone sets up goals and provided facts/logic to substantiate their argument, and then you attempt to totally change the goal. For instance, trying to change a discussion on why the fictions in the Bible are important to some lame dodge about how, well, it’s a nice story of some sort but you are intent on ignoring any and all challenges to actually identify what we should do with a story that we know to be proof, and how it relates to the actual topic (ya know, the one you’ve tried to avoid by shifting the goalposts.)
No, you’re just using fairly standard apologist tactics. When faced with the fact that the Bible isn’t accurate or true, you try to shift the topic to ‘metaphors’ and such. When asked what, if anything, that has to do with the fact that the religious narrative is provably fictitious, you clam up.
And the problem again is atheists will stubborn refuse to accept any evidence that supports the Bible. Therefore, they boldly claim there is ZERO evidence.
I even went to the effort of looking up the definition of “evidence”
A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment
Therefore, I can certainly look to the fact that the flood story exists in many cultures with striking similiarity to the Bible as “evidence” negating your claim that there is ZERO evidence.
I didn’t “allude to” an “evidence position” in my posts-I directly requested evidence for the existence of deities in the OP. In what post did you address this?
Well, no, the point was to get evidence of your deity, if the best you can do is that “it was close enough” or “a shrinking flood” then I guess we could go for what George Carlin said, that maybe what we have there is just a semi-supreme being. 
It suggests nothing of the sort.
Yes yes, atheists are out to get you and one is hiding under your bed right this instant!
Of course you are, yet again (of course) trying to change the subject when you’re shown to be wrong and refusing to address yet another factual rebuttal. As pointed out, AiG’s description is false. Further, even was it not, having a local flood in the Grand Canyon would not, in fact, be proof for a global flood.
Truly pathetically, now you’re reduced to claiming that since many cultures have different stories of floods, the fact that you see “striking similarities” with the Bible meant that we should come to… some conclusion or another. Why we shouldn’t figure that the Babylonian flood is the true proto-narrative and the rest are just glomming onto it is anybody’s guess, except of course it’s clear that you’re gaming the system. Or trying to.
Of course, the fact that many cultures have flood myths is not evidence that there was a global flood any more than polytheistic myths are proof that there are numerous, incarnate gods and goddesses who regularly visit the Earth. It is evidence that many cultures have flood myths, of course, not that you’re performing an honest analysis of that fact. Of course.
Pinning down what you believe is like nailing Jell-O to a wall, since you previously said this about the same event:
Read on McDuff. Let me help.
hit CTRL - F at the same time. type in evidence.
Now click on each page, and select next on your search button. You will see posts that address evidence.
You still havent answered why you havent called out all these other posts that arent on topic. Gee wilikers, one might think youre biased against me…
Naaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, not you!
The Bible says he is a Vengeful God. See earlier posts about the discussion on a Flood.
That doesnt mean every event that occurs is managed by God.
Nothing you quoted rebukes my statement.
GiGo posted the rebuttal to this, but did you seriously quoted Answers in Genesis?
Plus, what is an ‘evolutionary geologists’?
The flood which was debunked on factual grounds, after which you shifted the goalposts and started talking about ‘metaphors’, and still won’t identify why we should care about it at all, that flood?
It is like trying to nail jello to the wall, especially since the whole “vengeful god” bit is also a character change between the original book and its best-selling sequel.
This kind of personal commentary is not appropriate for this forum, dngnb8, so stop it. Czarcasm’s feelings about you (whatever they might be) aren’t relevant.
Well, I don’t make that claim - there are a few things in the Bible that are basically correct. The problem is, I don’t think there are good reasons to believe the supernatural things are correct.
Perhaps as evidence of a local flood - but a global one? The idea that this occurred is pretty much scientifically refuted. I mean, it’s a bit silly on the face of it. There wouldn’t be enough animals after the flood for the predators to eat, for instance.
Flood stories throughout ancient cultures are evidence that people believed in various flood stories, not that they necessarily happened. Further, the fact is that regions experience flooding. So it’s not too terrible an extrapolation to extend it to the entire world.
I mean, astrology is also found all throughout the world - does that mean we have evidence that the stars really do influence us? There are vampire tales throughout the world as well, does this mean that there are vampires?
The Omphalos Stone that Rhea gave Chronos instead of Zeus and saved his life is still visible today!
Many many towns in Greece are named after Zeus’ offspring by people who knew these offspring.
Heck the word Deus has its origins in the name of Zeus!
Works for me!
You still insisted that I switched goal posts is factually wrong.
So, not only are you still ignoring actually taking a position on what the flood story should be used for if it’s clearly fictional, now you’re still denying that despite you shifting the goalposts, it was somehow wrong for me to point it out. Sorry, but no. You rather clearly changed the discussion from one of the probative value of a factual story to some nonsense about metaphor that, each and every time you’ve been challenged on, you’ve found a way to ignore it or change the topic.
One suspects that’s because you’ve got nothing.
Quantum physics is the essence of possibilities. Every object is not a determined thing, but consists of possibilities for consciousness to choose from. When consciousness in not choosing, possibilities act as waves, but when consciousness is choosing, possibilities act as particles, fixed in reality. Consciousness takes things from the endless waves of possibilities and converts, or collapses them into actual events. Quantum measurement paradox?