# President Bachmann. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 15, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795 "2011-08-15T17:13:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Aankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aankh)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/41 "2011-08-16T18:49:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Aankh, I see you’re British and from what I understand the court system works very differently in the UK. So a quick primer on the Supreme Court (my apologies if you already know all this stuff). Thank you for the primer. It’s a very succinct summary of the reams of Wikipedia prose I was wading through. > [@Mosier](#): > > I am quite certain Bachman will make legitimate attempts to do both of the things you mentioned. Seems like I’m the only one who feels she won’t actually try to repeal the health care bill! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/42 "2011-08-16T19:20:10Z")
> [@Aankh](#): > > Thank you for the primer. It’s a very succinct summary of the reams of Wikipedia prose I was wading through. And you’ll search in vain for Arthur Kennedy. The Justice’s name is Anthony Kennedy. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/43 "2011-08-16T19:25:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And you’ll search in vain for Arthur Kennedy. Nobody can eat fifty eggs. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/44 "2011-08-16T19:33:46Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There’s always > Nader Shit, Nader’s getting O-L-D. Jello Biafra will take up the mantle soon, and ironically enough probably a majority of the electorate would prefer Jello to President Bachmann if they were the only choices. And Jello has the experience of having run for mayor of San Francisco in the early 1980s. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Scared](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Scared](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scared)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/45 "2011-08-16T19:40:13Z")
Rick Perry is a SERIAL KILLER as defined by The FBI’s National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crimes and believes he is above the Law and that he is greater than God. I asked him to tell me the difference between the State killing Psychologicaly Disorted Murderers and killing people on death row. In his reply he stated that “The State does not consider thier actions as Murder but rather Justified Homiside” SERIAL KILLER is defined as an individual who has ; • one or more offenders • two or more murdered victims • incidents should be occurring in separate events, at different times • the time period between murders separates serial murder from mass murder Motivation did not belong in a general definition, as it would make the definition overly complex • There is no generic template for a serial killer. • Serial killers are driven by their own unique motives or reasons. ( Such as being elected to a position that allows him to carry out his murders by catering to people who believe in the death penalty) • Serial killers are not limited by any specific demographic group, such as their sex, age, race, or religion. • Criminal Enterprise is a motivation in which the offender benefits in status or monetary compensation by committing murder that is drug, gang, or organized crime related. ( Such as a Political Party. ) • Ideology is a motivation to commit murders in order to further the goals and ideas of a specific individual or group. Examples of these include terrorist groups or an individual(s) who attacks a specific racial, gender, or ethnic group. ( Such as majority of people who vote a political party who’s leader believes in “Justified Homicide”.) • Power/thrill is a motivation in which the offender feels empowered and/or excited when he kills his victims. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD , PEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR RICK PERRY FOR PRESIDENT ! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/46 "2011-08-16T20:24:38Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Nobody can eat fifty eggs. No, that was George Kennedy. Arthur Kennedy was an actor who did a lot of westerns back in the fifties. ---
**Author:** ![Aankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aankh)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/47 "2011-08-16T20:31:21Z")
I feel this sudden urge to go a-murdering. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/48 "2011-08-16T21:36:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, that was George Kennedy. Arthur Kennedy was an actor who did a lot of westerns back in the fifties. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/49 "2011-08-17T00:15:02Z")
[The horror…](http://i.imgur.com/QxrdI.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/50 "2011-08-17T01:22:46Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Beyond that, I’m not sure what she’ll do. I honestly can’t predict what her foreign policy will be For Comedic Purposes, try imagining President Bachmann meeting the King of Saudi Arabia. For the purposes of Horror, try imagining President Bachmann meeting the Premier of China. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/51 "2011-08-17T02:29:59Z")
> [@Scared](#): > > Rick Perry is a SERIAL KILLER as defined by The FBI’s National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crimes > and believes he is above the Law and that he is greater than God. > I asked him to tell me the difference between the State killing Psychologicaly Disorted Murderers and > killing people on death row. > In his reply he stated that “The State does not consider thier actions as Murder but rather Justified Homiside” > SERIAL KILLER is defined as an individual who has ; > • one or more offenders > • two or more murdered victims > • incidents should be occurring in separate events, at different times > • the time period between murders separates serial murder from mass murder > > Motivation did not belong in a general definition, as it would make the definition overly complex > > • There is no generic template for a serial killer. > > • Serial killers are driven by their own unique motives or reasons. > ( Such as being elected to a position that allows him to carry out his murders by catering to people who believe in the death penalty) > > • Serial killers are not limited by any specific demographic group, such as their sex, > age, race, or religion. > > • Criminal Enterprise is a motivation in which the offender benefits in status or monetary compensation by committing murder that is drug, gang, or organized crime related. > ( Such as a Political Party. ) > > • Ideology is a motivation to commit murders in order to further the goals and ideas of a specific individual or group. Examples of these include terrorist groups or an individual(s) who attacks a specific racial, gender, or ethnic group. > ( Such as majority of people who vote a political party who’s leader believes in “Justified Homicide”.) > > • Power/thrill is a motivation in which the offender feels empowered and/or excited when he kills his victims. > > FOR THE LOVE OF GOD , PEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR RICK PERRY FOR PRESIDENT ! I saw a prison guard on TV who said the death certificate for a person the state kills, says death by homicide. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/52 "2011-08-17T03:00:29Z")
**Scared** , we have other threads for Perry. Or you could start your own, if you want to focus discussion on that point. But it’s kind of off-topic in a thread about Bachmann. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/53 "2011-08-17T07:22:40Z")
Here’s an interesting, if long, [write-up](http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/15/110815fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all) on Bachmann from the New Yorker. For one thing, she doesn’t know history. > [@](#): > > ‎"While looking over Bachmann’s State Senate campaign Web site, I stumbled upon a list of book recommendations. The third book on the list, which appeared just before the Declaration of Independence and George Washington’s Farewell Address, is a 1997 biography of Robert E. Lee by J. Steven Wilkins. > > Wilkins is the leading proponent of the theory that the South was an orthodox Christian nation unjustly attacked by the godless North… In the book, Wilkins condemns “the radical abolitionists of New England” and writes that “most southerners strove to treat their slaves with respect and provide them with a sufficiency of goods for a comfortable, though—by modern standards—spare existence.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/54 "2011-08-17T07:37:23Z")
It’s one thing when a southerner puts a positive spin on their own history. But when somebody from Minnesota advocates the position that the United States was the “bad guy” in the Civil War, it pisses me off. As far as I’m concerned, if Michele Bachmann wants to take the other side in a war involving the United Sates, she’s no better than Jane Fonda. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/55 "2011-08-17T07:40:52Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s one thing when a southerner puts a positive spin on their own history. But when somebody from Minnesota advocates the position that the United States was the “bad guy” in the Civil War, it pisses me off. As far as I’m concerned, if Michele Bachmann wants to take the other side in a war involving the United Sates, she’s no better than Jane Fonda. Apparently she likes to surround herself with these types of people. One of her old professors, John Eidsmoe, who she once worked for as a research assistant, > [@](#): > > …spoke at the national convention of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a defiantly pro-white, and anti-black, organization. (Eidsmoe says that he deeply despises racism, but that he will speak “to anyone.”) In Alabama last year, he addressed an event commemorating Secession Day and told an interviewer that it was the state’s “constitutional right to secede,” and that “Jefferson Davis and John C. Calhoun understood the Constitution better than did Abraham Lincoln and Daniel Webster.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/56 "2011-08-17T08:14:55Z")
Proving she’s equally knowledgeable about recent history, Representative Bachmann began a public speech yesterday with _“Before we get started, let’s all say ‘Happy Birthday’ to Elvis Presley today.”_ Presley’s birthday is January 8. August 16 is the anniversary of the day he died. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/57 "2011-08-17T08:25:50Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Proving she’s equally knowledgeable about recent history, Representative Bachmann began a public speech yesterday with _“Before we get started, let’s all say ‘Happy Birthday’ to Elvis Presley today.”_ > > Presley’s birthday is January 8. August 16 is the anniversary of the day he died. Hey! Give her a break! What was she SUPPOSED to say? Happy Deathday to Elvis Presley? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/58 "2011-08-17T12:28:53Z")
Imagine Bachmann as President: Bachmann - the most powerful man in the world. Bachmann - with her finger on the ‘button’. Bachmann - leading the nation in time of crisis. Bachmann - meeting with world leaders. Bachmann - exercising ‘judgement’ on issues. Where do they find these people? Crane Crane ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/59 "2011-08-17T15:14:52Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Hey! Give her a break! > What was she SUPPOSED to say? > > Happy Deathday to Elvis Presley? “Drugs are bad, m’kay” ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795/60 "2011-08-17T16:23:39Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Apparently she likes to surround herself with these types of people. One of her old professors, John Eidsmoe, who she once worked for as a research assistant, Can you provide an example where she makes a statement glorifying slavery, condemning the north for the civil war, or promoting racism? Because if not, youre just doing what Obama’s detractors did with rev. Wright. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bachmann/592795.md?page=4)