# President Barack Obama is a shameful hypocrite. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485 "2012-06-18T04:45:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/121 "2012-06-18T20:17:37Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Face facts. You’re a Republican. You want to dissuade people from voting for Obama. That means you want Romney to win. That means you think Romney would be better for the country. In fact, he’s a libertarian who thinks that nobody but Ron Paul can save this country, and the biggest threat to this country is everyone who isn’t an isolationist goldbug who is uncomfortable around people who aren’t WASPs. I’m sure that **WillFarnaby** has no interest in having Mitt Romney being president. Libertarians aren’t very good at dealing with practical arguments, such as the fact that Ron Paul isn’t going to be the next president, but either Obama or Romney will be. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/122 "2012-06-18T20:54:48Z")
Since either Obama or Romney will be the next president, telling people not to vote for Obama means you want Romney to win. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/123 "2012-06-18T21:01:09Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Since either Obama or Romney will be the next president, telling people not to vote for Obama means you want Romney to win. I’m not arguing that reality. I’m saying that **WillFarnaby** is so out of touch that he might think Ron Paul could still pull out a victory in November. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/124 "2012-06-18T21:07:42Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes the war in Iraq was based on lies. As was the “war” in libya “war” in Libya? I don’t remember getting “sold” on the “war” in Libya. I would trade 100 “wars” like the one we had with Libya if I could take back the one we had with Iraq. > [@Shodan](#): > > Because a good deal of the time, people on the SDMB really and truly are the mindlessly partisan, knee-jerk automatons they accuse everyone else of being. especially this guy… > [@](#): > > Regards, > Shodan > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Cyber attacks. Wait. WHAT?!?! You want us to get exercised about computer hacking? Wake me up when we start dropping bombs on Iran. I might even get concerned if I saw American troops marching through the streets of Tehran. ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/125 "2012-06-18T21:11:39Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Wash, rinse, repeat. I guess it’s time to hang him out to dry then… ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/126 "2012-06-18T21:13:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Not even you believe that bullshit, liar. You’re a damned naive fool. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/127 "2012-06-18T21:15:00Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I’m not arguing that reality. I’m saying that **WillFarnaby** is so out of touch that he might think Ron Paul could still pull out a victory in November. Considering that [Paul is still collecting delegates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650975) and [the Ronulans are still disrupting GOP conventions,](http://www.ronpaul.tv/ron-paul/ron-paul-backers-raise-a-ruckus.php) it will be an interesting-in-the-Chinese-sense Republican National Convention here in Tampa in August. But, it **will** end with Romney nominated and Paul sidelined. Paul will be on no ballot nowhere nohow. (Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Party candidate, will be on the ballot in all 50 states.) ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/128 "2012-06-18T21:45:27Z")
Here is a clear case of President Barack Obama 1) silencing dissent 2) engaging in covert acts of war( if cyber attacks aren’t big enough how about drone warfare). The best you can come up with is 1) he’s better than Romney 2) Bush did it first 3)I’m impractical. You’re movement is in shambles. Barack Obama has singlehandedly killed the progressive movement in America and you are helping him do it. That’s a damn shame. You are a damn shame. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/129 "2012-06-18T21:46:01Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I’m not arguing that reality. I’m saying that **WillFarnaby** is so out of touch that he might think Ron Paul could still pull out a victory in November. So his preferences are, in order: Paul Romney Obama So the fuck what? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/130 "2012-06-18T21:48:43Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Here is a clear case of President Barack Obama 1) silencing dissent 2) engaging in covert acts of war( if cyber attacks aren’t big enough how about drone warfare). The best you can come up with is 1) he’s better than Romney 2) Bush did it first 3)I’m impractical. Don’t forget 4) Obama is a far, far better choice than Ron (I’m A Libertarian So You Can’t Make Me) Paul. > [@](#): > > You’re movement is in shambles. Barack Obama has singlehandedly killed the progressive movement in America and you are helping him do it. That’s a damn shame. You are a damn shame. My tears fall like rain. :(😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/131 "2012-06-18T21:50:55Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Here is a clear case of President Barack Obama 1) silencing dissent 2) engaging in covert acts of war( if cyber attacks aren’t big enough how about drone warfare). The best you can come up with is 1) he’s better than Romney 2) Bush did it first 3)I’m impractical. > > You’re movement is in shambles. Barack Obama has singlehandedly killed the progressive movement in America and you are helping him do it. That’s a damn shame. You are a damn shame. Again, obvious concern troll is obvious. Since I’m no kind of progressive (I voted for Bush over Gore, Dole over Clinton, and Bush over Clinton), I think Obama’s doing a pretty good job as our most conservative president since Eisenhower. You think people only support Obama because they’re drooling left-wing hippies. That’s because you’re an idiot. Obama is the best choice in 2012 whether you’re a conservative or a liberal, or both, or neither. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/132 "2012-06-18T21:51:22Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You’re movement is in shambles. Barack Obama has singlehandedly killed the progressive movement in America and you are helping him do it. That’s a damn shame. You are a damn shame. You make me want to vote twice. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/133 "2012-06-18T22:09:23Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The best you can come up with is 1) he’s better than Romney 2) Bush did it first 3)I’m impractical. You’re right. There are so many Democrat candidates this year we should be looking for a better one. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/134 "2012-06-18T22:24:24Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > So his preferences are, in order: > > Paul > Romney > Obama > > So the fuck what? I thin his preferences are more like Paul, Paul, von Mises, Paul, Spam, Spam, Eggs, Spam, a bag full of gold doubloons, and Paul. I’m guessing that Romney and Obama don’t enter into it. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/135 "2012-06-18T22:26:54Z")
I’ll have your gold doubloons if you don’t want them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/136 "2012-06-18T22:36:46Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Obvious concern troll is obvious. > > Look, you want Romney to win the election. Nothing shameful about that. BULL_ **SHIT** _ there’s nothing shameful about that… ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/137 "2012-06-18T22:37:42Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > So his preferences are, in order: > > Paul > Romney > Obama > > So the fuck what? Ropauma? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/138 "2012-06-18T22:47:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > All men venerated for taking the power from the people and anchoring it in the executive branch. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Then you should have included Nixon and W in your list; they were far worse in that regard than Lincoln, FDR or Wilson. Point of order: Nixon and W are not venerated, which I presume he thinks is the point of the list. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/139 "2012-06-18T23:29:48Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Rubber, glue . . . More specifically, **I** am nothing you say, and **you** are a stupid, dishonest ugly, foul-natured, subhuman crank, and the whole Dope knows it, and you know it too. The only good you will ever do in or for this world will be to leave it forever. > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I hope you’re old and about to die. Do you even care about the consequences of the intervention? Did you even read the article? [Moderating] Both of you, cool it with the thinly gloating over the other person’s death. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/140 "2012-06-19T00:01:54Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I am wondering how someone can endorse a shameful human being and still claim the moral high road on the Republicans. Because the Republicans are just that horrible. Both morally, and in the effects they have on the nation and the world. They are as a group ideological psychopaths, amoral, completely dishonest, morally if not legally traitorous, religious fanatics, delusional, and criminally incompetent. > [@Rysdad](#): > > Straight party line, no consideration for anything outside the platform. What makes you think that people only oppose the Republicans because they are Democrats? I despise the Democrats; they are spineless, corrupt and far too right wing. And they are still far better than the Republicans. > [@gamerunknown](#): > > People aren’t voting for their ideal candidate. They’re voting for their preferred candidate out of two options. Exactly. My “ideal candidate” doesn’t even exist as far as I know, and if they did they’d have no chance of winning. And if the choice is a Republican or a Democrat, I choose the Democrat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485.md?page=8)