# President Barack Obama is a shameful hypocrite. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485 "2012-06-18T04:45:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/161 "2012-06-19T18:54:57Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Usually right into a camera, too. Win. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/162 "2012-06-19T19:24:01Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/163 "2012-06-19T19:30:23Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > With respect to a constituency, national government is theatre. There is a chessgame reality that exists between national leaders the audience is not meant to see, a parallel fabrication of which unfolds during the show. > > NOBODY on this board knows the reality of the Obama adminsitration and its motivations. While **WillFarnaby** certainly comports himself as a bit of a paranoid CT, it is equally ignorant to counter his arguments and defend President Obama. All that can really be said of Obama is: He’s the POTUS and nobody else here is. If you think you can do a better job, get yourself the job. If a mulatto from an unprivileged broken home can do it, what’s stopping you? If a lower middle class stepson of an abusive father can do it twice, handily, what’s stopping you? > > It’s a theatre. Get cast in the play or join the fan club you like best, but don’t pretend to know a damn thing about what’s going on backstage. When W was in office, we always knew **something** of what was going on backstage; even when a security-paranoid like Nixon was in office; the West Wing always leaks like a sieve, however many “plumbers” you hire. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/164 "2012-06-19T21:02:23Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > When W was in office, we always knew **something** of what was going on backstage; even when a security-paranoid like Nixon was in office; the West Wing always leaks like a sieve, however many “plumbers” you hire. You’re right, of course. Which is why, under the Montoya administration, the Whitehouse would be Wonkafied–Nobody ever goes in, nobody ever comes out. My staff would consist entirely of midget green-haired guidos with no interest in the outside world and a craving only for crafting peculiarly palatable policies and lovingly legitemate legislation. It’ll be _awesome_. Vote for me. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/165 "2012-06-19T21:52:18Z")
Are you offering free Gobstoppers for all? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/166 "2012-06-19T22:00:53Z")
Yeah? I got yer Gobstopper right here, pal. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/167 "2012-06-19T22:08:11Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Are you offering free Gobstoppers for all? Even better. At the close of my 8th year in office I’ll grant a tour of the Whitehouse to 5 lucky 3rd world dictators… ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/168 "2012-06-19T22:24:48Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > You’re right, of course. Which is why, under the Montoya administration, the Whitehouse would be Wonkafied–Nobody ever goes in, nobody ever comes out. My staff would consist entirely of midget green-haired guidos with no interest in the outside world and a craving only for crafting peculiarly palatable policies and lovingly legitemate legislation. > > It’ll be _awesome_. Vote for me. I can see your campaign slogan now! I am Inigo Montoya, you voted for Obama, prepare to die. Let me know if you need a campaign manager. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/169 "2012-06-20T01:46:01Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Again, obvious concern troll is obvious. > > Since I’m no kind of progressive (I voted for Bush over Gore, Dole over Clinton, and Bush over Clinton), I think Obama’s doing a pretty good job as our most conservative president since Eisenhower. > > You think people only support Obama because they’re drooling left-wing hippies. That’s because you’re an idiot. Obama is the best choice in 2012 whether you’re a conservative or a liberal, or both, or neither. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That is much more than sufficient. And Romney, for his part, is better than Paul; at least he’s not an anti-Fed goldbug crank. > > Obama ain’t even **part** of it. > [@silenus](#): > > The fact that morons like **WF** think Obama’s even _remotely_ populist or progressive is the scary thing. The stupid is strong with this group. Makes me wonder how they figured out fucking. I know they did, because Repubs and Paulites are out to do nothing but fuck America. Now any one of you want to tell me where or when I said Obama is a progressive? I wasn’t aware that in order to kill a movement you had to be part of it. Truly dim individuals I’m dealing with here. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/170 "2012-06-20T01:59:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Now any one of you want to tell me where or when I said Obama is a progressive? I wasn’t aware that in order to kill a movement you had to be part of it. Truly dim individuals I’m dealing with here. What IS it with libertarians on this board and asinine hair-splitting? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/171 "2012-06-20T03:10:19Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > What IS it with libertarians on this board and asinine hair-splitting? It’s all they got. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/172 "2012-06-20T03:11:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Now any one of you want to tell me where or when I said Obama is a progressive? I wasn’t aware that in order to kill a movement you had to be part of it. Truly dim individuals I’m dealing with here. And how, exactly, has Obama killed it? By lulling it into complacency? No, that ain’t happening. By discrediting it in the public mind? Not that either. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/173 "2012-06-20T03:29:38Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Now any one of you want to tell me where or when I said Obama is a progressive? I wasn’t aware that in order to kill a movement you had to be part of it. Truly dim individuals I’m dealing with here. If Obama is killing the progressive movement he must be doing it in secret. And, since I don’t give a crap about the progressive movement, if Obama wants to kill it, that’s fine by me. If Obama manages to marginalize the goddamn dirty hippies farther than they’re already marginalized, hey, bonus feature. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/174 "2012-06-20T03:35:37Z")
Well, our years of iron-fisted rule had to end someday, I suppose… ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/175 "2012-06-20T04:50:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And how, exactly, has Obama killed it? By lulling it into complacency? No, that ain’t happening. By discrediting it in the public mind? Not that either. It is lulled indeed. Who is out there bringing in crowds preaching progressivism? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/176 "2012-06-20T04:51:44Z")
Well, there was that one guy, but he got nailed. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/177 "2012-06-20T12:11:00Z")
None of this would have happened if we’d been on the gold standard. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/178 "2012-06-20T12:20:54Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > When W was in office, we always knew **something** of what was going on backstage; even when a security-paranoid like Nixon was in office; the West Wing always leaks like a sieve, however many “plumbers” you hire. Actually I would pose that it’s precisely when you got the guys most concerned with keeping control, that the leaks are more notable. Restrict flow at one end, increase the pressure at other possible fail points. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/179 "2012-06-20T12:29:54Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > I am Inigo Montoya, you voted for Obama, prepare to die. Got my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485/180 "2012-06-20T15:43:10Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > It is lulled indeed. Who is out there bringing in crowds preaching progressivism? So, your evidence that Obama killed progressiveism is that there are no crowd-pleasing progressive activists? Were there lots of them out there before Obama was elected? I can’t think of a single one. In order for Obama to kill the progressive movement, first you have to have a living progressive movement for him to kill. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-barack-obama-is-a-shameful-hypocrite/625485.md?page=10)