# President Biden Dropping Out of Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/241 "2024-07-22T00:28:38Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > The election is going to be determined by the so-called double haters — those who consider Harris and Biden a choice between two evils. Crazy? Maybe, but all the campaigning in the world is not going to change this. I think you mean Trump and Harris, right? That was, it was reported, the dynamic with Trump and Biden, with Biden seeming to be “hated” because of his age. I don’t think it’s clear that that dynamic will be in place with Trump and Harris. > [@](#): > > And saying that being a woman of color is a reason to vote for a candidate is like nails on the chalkboard for a lot of those voters. It sounds too much like that Harris is an affirmative action pick. For me, of course, it has nothing to do with her capabilities. Why I like it is that it affirms that we as a society are rejecting white supremacy and misogyny and agreeing that anyone can do this kind of job. At the same time, it smacks said white supremacists upside the head with a 2 x 4 and tells them that their sick fantasies are not going to be realized. I.e., it demoralizes them. ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/242 "2024-07-22T00:32:29Z")
[https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1815066926978306266](https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1815066926978306266) Joy Reid is saying that white democrats are pushing out Joe and most blacks oppose it. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/243 "2024-07-22T00:37:18Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Things can change very quickly. That was my experience with my father. He was doing well for a man of advanced age. And then suddenly he wasn’t, with dementia becoming an issue very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/244 "2024-07-22T00:37:37Z")
Libs of tik tok. Har. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/245 "2024-07-22T00:38:57Z")
I hope not. If I have to vote for that fat head I’ll be in serious therapy. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/246 "2024-07-22T00:42:37Z")
Yes. Sorry to hear it. I’m sure it was hard for you. It was for me. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/247 "2024-07-22T00:45:13Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > > The election is going to be determined by the so-called double haters — those who consider Harris and Biden a choice between two evils. Crazy? Maybe, but all the campaigning in the world is not going to change this. > > I think you mean Trump and Harris, right? Yes, sorry. I just fixed it in the post with an EDIT note. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/248 "2024-07-22T00:45:50Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > Joy Reid is saying that white democrats are pushing out Joe and most blacks oppose it. Apparently Obama was part of the chorus, no? Black people not liking the situation is understandable; their refusing to support Harris, which has not been demonstrated, would not be understandable. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/249 "2024-07-22T00:48:18Z")
That video was made before Biden’s announcement. Libs of Tick Tock (a right wing group) likely posted it to try to sew division. ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/250 "2024-07-22T00:51:15Z")
It seems a good bet that Obama will endorse Harris. He is taking his time though. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/251 "2024-07-22T00:52:59Z")
It’s Sunday. There’s no rush. His endorsement will come more than soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/252 "2024-07-22T00:56:44Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Yes. Sorry to hear it. I’m sure it was hard for you. It was for me. Thanks. I’m sure it was difficult for you as well. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/253 "2024-07-22T00:58:21Z")
Somewhere, I like to imagine that John McCain is saying “Now that’s what I call a game changer!” I’ve seen it pointed out on TV…Biden was instrumental in getting the first Black man elected president, and he may prove instrumental in getting the first black woman elected president. And in the interim had a hugely successful term as president himself. He’s going to have quite the historic legacy. ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/254 "2024-07-22T01:02:30Z")
Joe has Covid, maybe he’s having a bad few days. What if he wakes up tomorrow feeling better and says he changed his mind and is getting back in the race? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/255 "2024-07-22T01:08:11Z")
You aren’t any more wrong now than you were then. You are just the same amount of wrong, updated. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/256 "2024-07-22T01:08:21Z")
“No Backsies!” ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/257 "2024-07-22T01:10:06Z")
Well Obama is very smart. He could be delaying in case Michelle might want a shot. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/258 "2024-07-22T01:10:17Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > [https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1815066926978306266](https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1815066926978306266) > > Joy Reid is saying that white democrats are pushing out Joe and most blacks oppose it. According to the [first poll on this I found](https://apnorc.org/projects/most-say-biden-should-withdraw-from-the-presidential-race/), not quite true. 49 percent of Black Democrats wanted Joe to drop out, and 50 percent wanted him to stay in. So – not quite “most.” The poll does show white Democrats, before the fact, were more likely to want Joe to drop out than Black Democrats. But so what? Pivoting to a candidate who happens to be Black (yes I am slightly old fashioned here) is not a racist move. I think a second Trump term risks disaster. If Harris wins by doing well with white voters, while she does a smidgen less fabulously than Biden did, in 2020, with Black voters, that’s interesting. But all I care about is to avert the disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/259 "2024-07-22T01:13:54Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > He could be delaying in case Michelle might want a shot. There’s a better chance of me becoming the Democratic nominee than Michelle “wanting a shot”. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/260 "2024-07-22T01:14:01Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > Well Obama is very smart. He could be delaying in case Michelle might want a shot. Both Barack and Michelle, being smart, know that Michelle is unqualified to be POTUS due to lack of political experience. This wouldn’t stop a Republican, but they are Democrats. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=14)