# President Biden Dropping Out of Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/363 "2024-07-24T00:39:47Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I would love it if Joe Biden suddenly looked and acted like he was ten years younger now that he’s dropped out. [![](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/450501749_7975607915811655_8238197524968068700_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=Ok9GlTxIa4kQ7kNvgGzd_1c&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AYDLLDwFyJFZgQFH-W4YGnFeii2BOCtBcT5yoJ60psVbiQ&oe=66A639A7) ](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/450501749_7975607915811655_8238197524968068700_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=Ok9GlTxIa4kQ7kNvgGzd_1c&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AYDLLDwFyJFZgQFH-W4YGnFeii2BOCtBcT5yoJ60psVbiQ&oe=66A639A7) ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/364 "2024-07-24T00:40:56Z")
That is awsome. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/365 "2024-07-24T00:48:14Z")
> **[Trump Campaign Files Complaint Over Harris Receiving Over $90 Million In...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/23/trump-campaign-files-complaint-over-harris-receiving-over-90-million-in-biden-funds/)** > > President Joe Biden turned over his campaign funds to Vice President Kamala Harris this week after dropping out of the presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/366 "2024-07-24T00:55:29Z")
Haven’t you heard? Joe Biden is dead. > **[Boebert demands ‘proof of life’ from Biden after he leaves 2024 race](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-out-lauren-boebert-proof-life-b2583959.html)** > > The right-wing Colorado congresswoman said she wanted confirmation that the president was alive ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/367 "2024-07-24T00:57:54Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > If he’s still awake at 8 pm, he’s doing better than most octogenarians I know. I’m 63 and most evenings I’m asleep on the couch by the 3rd inning of the Phillies game. By the time I’m 81 I expect to go to bed for the night a half hour after I get up. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/368 "2024-07-24T00:59:28Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I would love it if Joe Biden suddenly looked and acted like he was ten years younger now that he’s dropped out. Think of the conspiracies the right would spin out of that! Now that the burden of responsibility for winning the election is off his shoulders, this is possible. Tomorrow night, he needs to convince centrist voters that he dropped out because, due to his mental state, now, and especially in the future, Kamala Harris will be better for America. If people think the only reason he dropped out was to change the election result, that will look fine to Democratic Party loyalists but manipulative to others. If he really dropped out because he had a cold on the debate night that gave Trump a polling bounce, that was, from a median voter POV, a fraud on the American people. The only justifiable reason is that he has a progressive condition such that the world would be better off with a different president. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/369 "2024-07-24T01:03:48Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > [Trump Files Complaint Challenging Transfer Of Biden Funds To Harris](https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/23/trump-campaign-files-complaint-over-harris-receiving-over-90-million-in-biden-funds/) The complaint was filed with the FEC – which is split evenly between 3 Democratic and 3 Republican commissioners and can’t do shit unless 4 commissioners agree. In the meantime, Harris will control the money until and unless the courts step in. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/370 "2024-07-24T01:05:08Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Tomorrow night, he needs to convince centrist voters that he dropped out because, due to his mental state, now, and especially in the future, Kamala Harris will be better for America. No, not due to his mental state- due to his health. He just caught Covid. Perfect excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/371 "2024-07-24T01:11:55Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > > > I would love it if Joe Biden suddenly looked and acted like he was ten years younger now that he’s dropped out. Think of the conspiracies the right would spin out of that! > > Now that the burden of responsibility for winning the election is off his shoulders, this is possible. > > Tomorrow night, he needs to convince centrist voters that he dropped out because, due to his mental state, now, and especially in the future, Kamala Harris will be better for America. If people think the only reason he dropped out was to change the election result, that will look fine to Democratic Party loyalists but manipulative to others. > > If he really dropped out because he had a cold on the debate night that gave Trump a polling bounce, that was, from a median voter POV, a fraud on the American people. The only justifiable reason is that he has a progressive condition such that the world would be better off with a different president. He needs to convince the country… no strike that. He needs to convince those who are willing to listen that he is healthy enough to be president now. That’s job one. Explain how campaigning for president is a full time job. He has lost a step but he’s able to do his main job. He’s just not able to have two full time jobs anymore and being president is the most important thing for him and the country. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/372 "2024-07-24T01:16:50Z")
I just hope hes healthy and alright. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/373 "2024-07-24T01:17:23Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > In the meantime, Harris will control the money until and unless the courts step in. Would it be a good strategy to tap that money first and spend it down as much as possible? Or should she use the money raised directly by her first and leave that Biden/Harris money alone until she gets the okay from the FEC? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/374 "2024-07-24T01:24:52Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Or should she use the money raised directly by her first and leave that Biden/Harris money alone until she gets the okay? I’m actually curious where the tens of millions of dollars that Harris claims to have raised in the last couple days has been going. Is it going into the formerly Biden/currently Harris presidential campaign committee, the DNC, one or more PACs, etc.? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/375 "2024-07-24T01:24:55Z")
Amusing, but the several octogenarians I know or am related to stay up later than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/376 "2024-07-24T01:25:00Z")
He’s not stepping down and nobody’s going to invoke the 25th. The GOP can continue to whine, but nobody has any leverage on Biden, not anymore. Maybe Comer can dust off his notes. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/377 "2024-07-24T01:28:09Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If people think the only reason he dropped out was to change the election result, that will look fine to Democratic Party loyalists but manipulative to others. It’s been a very transparent and public discussion that the motivation to get him to step aside was in order to have a better chance to win the election. His position publicly was that he is well enough. The general understanding is that he stepped aside despite that belief because beating Trump is that important. He should not change that story now. He should be as strong as he can be, and campaign for Harris as vigorously as he can. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/378 "2024-07-24T01:38:12Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Boebert demands ‘proof of life’ from Biden Sorry, she’ll have to be content with the “proof of life” she elicited from her date to see the _Beetlejuice_ musical. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/379 "2024-07-24T01:40:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Having the debate really early also meant that there _might_ be time to recover if things went badly. Nate Silver (fwiw) had a similar game-theory analysis of the early debate timing. Of course, he has been on the “Biden should drop out” bandwagon for longer than most. A quote from that article (which was mainly about how moving the debate earlier made it possible that if it went poorly the memory would fade by the election): > [@](#): > > There’s one other tactical wrinkle — I suppose I’m skeptical that the White House was thinking about it, but if so, I’ll up their grade from A+ to A+++. By moving the first debate to before the Democratic convention in August, Democrats increase their option value. Here’s what I mean by that. If Biden totally and irrecoverably screws up in the June debate — he’s just obviously no longer ready for prime time — then he can step down and Democrats can [pull the Ezra Klein break-glass-in-case-of-emergency plan](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/opinion/ezra-klein-biden-audio-essay.html) and hold a contested convention. It’s not ideal — that’s an understatement — but it’s much less bad than going into the final months of the campaign certain to lose. Cite: [What Biden's debate gambit reveals - by Nate Silver](https://www.natesilver.net/p/what-bidens-debate-gambit-reveals) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/380 "2024-07-24T01:51:49Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Haven’t you heard? Joe Biden is dead. > > > [Boebert demands ‘proof of life’ from Biden in unhinged Twitter rant after he leaves 2024 race | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-out-lauren-boebert-proof-life-b2583959.html) It was that photo of Biden barefoot that made her suspicious, right? (If you get that reference, then you are almost Biden’s age.) The question is, what would she accept as proof of life? On second thought, don’t answer that. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/381 "2024-07-24T01:58:05Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If he really dropped out because he had a cold on the debate night that gave Trump a polling bounce, that was, from a median voter POV, a fraud on the American people No, I don’t think this is a “median voter” point of view. I think this is a “you” point of view that you are are extrapolating (with no evidence whatsoever) out to median voters. I suspect there are vanishing few non-GOP members who would agree. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/382 "2024-07-24T01:59:30Z")
You know, for someone they’re supposed to be running against, Republicans sure seem to want Kamala Harris to become president. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=20)