# President Biden Dropping Out of Race

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/21 "2024-07-21T18:18:01Z")

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Harris can choose a VP tomorrow if she wanted to. There’s no continuity problem. Just ask Gerald Ford (VP after Agnew resigned).

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/22 "2024-07-21T18:18:10Z")

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The conspiracy theory was that he was planning to drop out all along.

It basically when Biden always planned to be a one term president. The democrats just didn’t want a progressive running in the presidential primary in 2024. So Biden ran for reelection and he ran unopposed, no progressive challenged him.

Now that the primary is over, he is dropping out.

There have been rumors this was the plan for months now. No idea if its true or not.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/23 "2024-07-21T18:18:35Z")

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That’s absolutely ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/24 "2024-07-21T18:18:52Z")

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Iran Contra was ridiculous too

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/25 "2024-07-21T18:20:08Z")

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Eh, if Trump wins he’ll likely get the blame now, so it’s not that good a move from the “legacy” standpoint.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/26 "2024-07-21T18:20:30Z")

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Guess flat earthers are right too!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/27 "2024-07-21T18:21:22Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Harris can choose a VP tomorrow if she wanted to. There’s no continuity problem

The replacement VP has to be approved by _ **both** _ Houses of Congress to take office.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/28 "2024-07-21T18:21:30Z")

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Now that Biden doesn’t have to run for reelection, any “kamikaze” actions he might take during his remaining term?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/29 "2024-07-21T18:22:18Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Harris can choose a VP tomorrow if she wanted to. There’s no continuity problem

Not without approval approval from the House and Senate.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/30 "2024-07-21T18:22:26Z")

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Unlikely, IMO, as it would reflect on Harris too. Wouldn’t rule it out for sure.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/31 "2024-07-21T18:22:49Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> > [@squeegee](#):
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> > Harris can choose a VP tomorrow if she wanted to. There’s no continuity problem
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> The replacement VP has to be approved by _ **both** _ Houses of Congress to take office.

I think @squeegee meant running mate, she’s not taking over as president.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/32 "2024-07-21T18:22:52Z")

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Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan says she will not be running for president with Biden out.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/33 "2024-07-21T18:23:26Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> I think @squeegee meant running mate, she’s not taking over as president.

No. Look at their earlier post

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/34 "2024-07-21T18:24:20Z")

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Nobody is going to challenge Harris unless as an intentional spoiler / GOP op.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/35 "2024-07-21T18:25:25Z")

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Got it. But I’d like to see a lot of them go on the record publicly. Shut it all down asap.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/36 "2024-07-21T18:29:42Z")

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He officially endorsed Harris

> **[Biden drops out of the 2024 presidential race, endorses Kamala Harris](https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/biden-drops-out-of-the-2024-presidential-race-endorses-kamala-harris-180510790.html)**
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> The president announced his decision in an open letter shared to social media Sunday.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/37 "2024-07-21T18:29:50Z")

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This is very welcome good news for the Dems after all the pieces started to fall into place for an almost guaranteed Trump victory. There is no way Biden could have won. Now there’s a chance for the Dems to stave off the almost unimaginable disaster of a Trump-Vance victory. It will be an uphill battle, and I dearly wish it was someone more likable than Harris, but if she’s as smart as everyone seems to think she is, maybe she can pull off an Obama-like historic first! I’m imagining Trump right now throwing ketchup at the wall. 😃

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/38 "2024-07-21T18:30:59Z")

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I’m glad the Democrats have shown themselves capable of self-correction.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/39 "2024-07-21T18:33:18Z")

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Gift link for article with step-by-step of what will happen in various circumstances: if Biden endorses Harris, if he doesn’t, if the Dems decide to do a pre-convention vote, if they don’t, etc:  
[https://wapo.st/4bYeacN](https://wapo.st/4bYeacN)

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> …A few thousand delegates representing voters officially choose the party’s nominee, whether a convention is open or not. Typically they choose the winner of the primaries — that’s what they are sent to do — so it may feel as if the voters choose directly. But if **Biden, the primary winner, leaves the race, all his delegates would be free agents** and would choose a candidate on their own without voter input. …

My bolding.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/21/open-convention-democrats-biden-drop-out/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/21/open-convention-democrats-biden-drop-out/)

(Same article, but not as gift; I hoped it would show a preview of the article but maybe things are screwy now due to volume.)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/40 "2024-07-21T18:40:59Z")

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Harris gave a nice speech in North Carolina recently. Really used her prosecutorial chops to methodically go after Trump. I feel good about her taking the reins.

Law & order vs convicted felon. Young vs old. A woman vs a man who took away women’s right to choose (and a running mate who wants to take it further). Something new vs something stale. Stability vs chaos. An historic nomination vs the same-old-same-old.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Fm_nsxVK6oQ/maxresdefault.jpg "VP Kamala Harris' full remarks at North Carolina rally") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm_nsxVK6oQ)

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