# President Biden Dropping Out of Race

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/383 "2024-07-24T01:59:36Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> [Boebert demands ‘proof of life’ from Biden in unhinged Twitter rant after he leaves 2024 race | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-out-lauren-boebert-proof-life-b2583959.html)

He should jump out from behind a door in her face and go “BOO!”

ETA: I was going to suggest a clue-by-four, but that would be advocating violence, so naw.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/384 "2024-07-24T02:16:01Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> he needs to convince centrist voters that he dropped out because, due to his mental state, now, and especially in the future

**Yossarian** : Ok, let me see if I’ve got this straight. In order to drop out, Biden has to admit his mental state is too poor to be President. But if Biden wants to drop out because the job is too much for him that means his mental state is fine and he can’t drop out.  
**PhillyGuy** : You got it, that’s Catch-22.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/385 "2024-07-24T02:56:50Z")

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That would be a lie. There is nothing wrong with his,“mental state.” I would assume that his physical stamina may be an issue. The real reason is that the circular firing squad left him little choice. If he’d stayed in the party and the media would have continued, “just asking questions.” He had to leave because all of that. I’m just glad it seems to be working well. I think Kamala Harris will be a great president.I’ll be proud to vote for her.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/386 "2024-07-24T03:29:27Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> That would be a lie. There is nothing wrong with his,“mental state.” I would assume that his physical stamina may be an issue. The real reason is that the circular firing squad left him little choice

Right, he is exhausted and the covid didnt help.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/387 "2024-07-24T03:50:50Z")

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I know that Breitbart is not a credible source, but I was alerted to this by a post on a right-wing message board:

> **[Exclusive — Peter Schweizer: Joe Biden Dropping Out 'Largely an Effort to...](https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/07/22/exclusive-peter-schweizer-joe-biden-dropping-out-largely-an-effort-to-extract-best-deal-possible-for-his-family/)**
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> Peter Schweizer believes the tango over Joe Biden dropping out was "largely an effort to extract" the best deal for his family.

From the item:

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> Speaking to _Breitbart News Daily_, Schweizer reminded listeners that Biden is the central point in the family and its corruption, so the 81-year-old was most assuredly trying to make the best deal possible for his and his family members’ benefit before formally exiting the presidential race …
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> “I think that if you know one thing about Joe Biden: Over his political career, this is a guy that has always cut deals and made deals on behalf of his family,” Schweizer explained. …

Jeez, and Trump _doesn’t_? What kind of reality do these people inhabit? Carrying on:

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> “I think there was a lot of discussion and negotiation with big Democratic Party donors. …"
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> “So, I think that Joe Biden was and the family were taking care of themselves,” he said, concluding that they realized the money was drying up, so they likely dragged their feet, staying in the race in appearance only while waiting for the best deal possible.

I’d like to say, “There are no words,” but the right-wingers on the message board are stating plenty of them. Mostly in agreement with Schweizer.

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**Author:** ![illoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a3d4f5/32.png) [@illoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/illoe)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/388 "2024-07-24T04:09:13Z")

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Every accusation is a confession with these guys. Guaranteed.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/389 "2024-07-24T11:42:41Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It was that photo of Biden barefoot that made her suspicious, right? (If you get that reference, then you are almost Biden’s age.)

I got that and I’m half his age. Not sure what that says about me 😆

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/390 "2024-07-24T11:44:16Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> **Yossarian** : Ok, let me see if I’ve got this straight. In order to drop out, Biden has to admit his mental state is too poor to be President. But if Biden wants to drop out because the job is too much for him that means his mental state is fine and he can’t drop out.  
> **PhillyGuy** : You got it, that’s Catch-22.

Yes.

Endorsing Harris.(which wise Barack Obama has not yet done) also has that Catch 22. If Biden isn’t skilled enough to be the job at the highest level, why is he skilled enough to know who can do it at the highest level?

We’ll see how Joe Biden threads this strange needle tonight. I probably think it is more important than most others here.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/391 "2024-07-24T12:18:25Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It was that photo of Biden barefoot that made her suspicious, right? (If you get that reference, then you are almost Biden’s age.)

\< plays the SOTU Address backwards \>

> [@Spoons](#):
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> What kind of reality do these people inhabit?

One of their own careful construction.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/392 "2024-07-24T12:20:51Z")

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> [@iamatractorboy](#):
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> I got that and I’m half his age. Not sure what that says about me 😆

You are a well-informed individual.  
😉

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> \< plays the SOTU Address backwards \>

👍🏻

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/393 "2024-07-24T13:27:11Z")

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47_IF_! 🪦

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/394 "2024-07-24T20:13:09Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Endorsing Harris.(which wise Barack Obama has not yet done)

He waited until August to endorse Biden- his own Veep. So this is expected.

> **[Fact Check: Viral Video Of Joe Biden’s Address After He Opts Out Of US...](https://newschecker.in/ai-deepfake/viral-video-of-joe-bidens-address-after-he-opts-out-of-us-presidential-race-is-a-deepfake/)**
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> US President Joe Biden’s expletive-laden video address after he dropped out of the presidential race for the upcoming November election.

_Viral Video Of Joe Biden’s Address After He Opts Out Of US Presidential Race Is A Deepfake_

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/395 "2024-07-24T20:32:15Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Endorsing Harris.(which wise Barack Obama has not yet done)

Couple of possible reasons come to mind:  
–He wants to wait until she’s the confirmed nominee before endorsing, to look as impartial as possible  
–He wants to wait until she needs a boost in the narrative before endorsing, in case there’s some other news that needs to be drowned out  
– He wants to wait until she chooses a VP  
– He’s in favor of at least the appearance of other nominees being considered at the convention

I’m thinking #2 sounds the most likely. There’s no reason he wouldn’t endorse her. It wouldn’t really be jumping the gun, since the vast, vast majority of Democrats have already beaten him to it and she has in fact gotten enough delegate support to be the presumptive nominee.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/396 "2024-07-24T20:39:28Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> Couple of possible reasons come to mind:

Again, he always waits.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> He waited until August to endorse Biden- his own Veep. So this is expected.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/397 "2024-07-24T20:46:35Z")

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Obama takes the more traditional former president role. Stay above the fray and support the party’s nominee after they are officially chosen. I agree with that method.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/398 "2024-07-24T22:31:14Z")

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I am looking forward to Biden’s speech tonight. I hope it is as classy as his letter when he stepped down. Meanwhile, still have One Last Time from Hamilton on repeat.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/399 "2024-07-24T22:39:17Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Obama takes the more traditional former president role. Stay above the fray and support the party’s nominee after they are officially chosen

Bush endorsed McCain and Romney during the primaries, but don’t hold your breath waiting for Bush to endorse Trump.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/400 "2024-07-24T23:39:10Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> If Biden isn’t skilled enough to be the job at the highest level, why is he skilled enough to know who can do it at the highest level?

Uh, because even if he’s old and has less stamina than ideal for the job, he’s a consummate politician and has excellent judgement.

Anyway, i thought he should drop out before the primaries, because he has a condition, “old age” that is progressive and might get suddenly worse. I think he’s still competent to do the job of president, which is largely about setting direction and negotiating. But it looks like he may no longer be competent to campaign, which requires a ton of stamina. And i think the one-two punch of a cold that wiped him out on debate day, followed by a mild case of covid, convinced him of that.

But as @DSeid said, he’s been completely transparent that he’s dropping out to give his party the best chance of winning, and not because he doesn’t feel competent to given. Personally, i really respect a man who can put the country ahead of his own ego. Way to go, Joe. You are stepping down with grace and i applaud you for it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/401 "2024-07-25T00:05:33Z")

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Biden was a freakin’ genius, in my opinion. He waited until the last minute, having the Republicans spending their money against him personally instead of focusing on the Democratic agenda, and making it next to impossible for anyone else but Harris to throw their hat into the ring. At the last possible minute he pulls the rug right from under the Republicans’ feet and throws his support behind Harris. The very campaign they used against Biden has to be dropped completely or be used against them, and I don’t thing the Democrats are going to cooperate much with dropping the “stumbling old man who seems confused” meme their enemies created.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/402 "2024-07-25T00:06:57Z")

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Anyone watching Biden’s talk?

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@Czarcasm, did you mean Biden?

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