# President Biden Dropping Out of Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/423 "2024-07-25T02:27:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s not like he has any real facts or a cogent argument to make in the first place And he’s really good at expressing the non-facts and non-cogent arguments nonsensically. I call it “stream of unconsciousness.” ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/424 "2024-07-25T03:10:47Z")
I watched the speech. First-he looked terrible. I think he may be suffering the effects of Covid. He read slowly and stuttered but did not appear confused. Second, he was clearly trying to make it an address to the whole country and not a campaign speech for Harris without denying the fact that he stepped down to give her a chance to win. Third, he still wants the job and thinks he could have done it but stepped down for the sake of the country. That makes me respect him even more. Fourth, I think I deserve a little credit for writing parts of that speech. In my deluded brain he clearly read my post about what he should say: -wants everybody to have the right to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -only in America can a regular guy from Scranton, PA become president I think the speech reads better than it sounded. After seeing him I am glad he stepped down. IAs I have said before, I think he can govern now but if this is how much he has aged in the past four years, I dread what another four years in the job will do to him. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/425 "2024-07-25T03:27:08Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Second, he was clearly trying to make it an address to the whole country and not a campaign speech for Harris without denying the fact that he stepped down to give her a chance to win. It would be unseemly…not to mention, illegal…to give a campaign speech from the Oval Office. I thought he threaded that needle pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/426 "2024-07-25T03:56:44Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > It would be unseemly…not to mention, illegal…to give a campaign speech from the Oval Office. Didn’t the Supreme Court just decide that speeches are official acts of the presidency, and that such official acts are legal by definition? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/427 "2024-07-25T04:07:23Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Didn’t the Supreme Court just decide that speeches are official acts of the presidency, and that such official acts are legal by definition? Huh, interesting… but, ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/428 "2024-07-25T04:13:21Z")
He has nearly total immunity for official acts and he is a lame duck president now. He can do whatever the hell he wants. I don’t know what there is to do, but he should just do whatever he thinks he is best, offer tons of executive orders, and work to make sure our 2024 election is fair and every vote is counted. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/429 "2024-07-25T04:36:20Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Didn’t the Supreme Court just decide that speeches are official acts of the presidency, and that such official acts are legal by definition? While that sounds absurd, per the recent ruling I’m pretty confident you’re 100% correct. It’s going to be difficult to remember this. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/430 "2024-07-25T04:42:31Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > He has nearly total immunity for official acts and he is a lame duck president now. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Not a real tweet, but still funny; [![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53878734252_c4e5eb7d2d_z.jpg) ](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53878734252_c4e5eb7d2d_z.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/431 "2024-07-25T05:07:12Z")
“Donald, now that I’m out of the race, let’s put our disagreements behind us. Come on over to the White House for dinner. It would be a Major disappointment if you couldn’t.” ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/432 "2024-07-25T05:15:26Z")
Are you saying Biden wants to have trump for dinner? Snerk Please no. I don’t want President Biden or Major sick. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/433 "2024-07-25T05:22:54Z")
Would it be in poor taste to start selling orange, ear-shaped chew toys? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/434 "2024-07-25T06:37:08Z")
Or a special edition ear-shaped circus peanut. Actually, I would put it past Trump to do such a thing and charge an exorbitant amount for it. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/435 "2024-07-25T12:52:01Z")
I haven’t seen this posted yet: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DeT3KpN2Ol0/maxresdefault.jpg "Top Ten Reasons Joe Biden Dropped Out Of The Race | Letterman") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeT3KpN2Ol0) ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/436 "2024-07-25T13:28:14Z")
“These Democrats seem to keep shooting themselves in the foot don’t they.” ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/437 "2024-07-25T13:36:29Z")
[![](https://y.yarn.co/d83d56ae-cfdf-4396-9327-7727a896714e_text.gif) ](https://y.yarn.co/d83d56ae-cfdf-4396-9327-7727a896714e_text.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/438 "2024-07-25T13:43:05Z")
“The menu will be inspired by your dear friend Hannibal Lecter” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/439 "2024-07-25T13:50:33Z")
Ooooo, good one! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/440 "2024-07-25T15:36:13Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I haven’t seen this posted yet: That is both extremely dated and a good testament to how long Biden has been around. Was he running for president in, I’m guessing, 1988? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/441 "2024-07-25T15:52:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Was he running for president in, I’m guessing, 1988? He was. He dropped out of the campaign in September of '87, when incidents of plagiarism (in his campaign speeches, and an incident when he was in law school) came to light. > **[Joe Biden 1988 presidential campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_1988_presidential_campaign)** > > The 1988 presidential campaign of Joe Biden, a Democratic U.S. Senator from Delaware, began in June 1987. Originally, Biden was regarded as potentially one of the strongest candidates in the field. In September 1987, however, reports emerged that he had plagiarized a speech by the British Leader of the Opposition and Labour Party Leader, Neil Kinnock. Other allegations of past law school plagiarism and exaggerating his academic record soon followed and Biden withdrew from the race later that mo... ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/442 "2024-07-25T15:59:38Z")
We finally have some battle ground polls. Harris trails but is one or two points better than Briden was doing. By The Hill’s metric, it’s Trump 47.7/Harris 45.7. Trump had been as high as 60 against Biden in the last month. [https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4790684-kamala-harris-polls-donald-trump-wisconsin/](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4790684-kamala-harris-polls-donald-trump-wisconsin/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=23)