# President Biden Dropping Out of Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/61 "2024-07-21T19:01:55Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > If Harris is the nominee, she should go hard after Trump’s age and physical fitness. Highlight his rambling speech and grasping for words. I dont know about that. I’d rather see her go hard after his criminality, sexual assault, insurrection and fraudulent past. Going after a person’s frailty and physical fitness (even Trump’s) has the potential to backfire. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/62 "2024-07-21T19:02:26Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I dont know about that. I’d rather see her go hard after his criminality, sexual assault, insurrection and fraudulent past. Going after a person’s frailty and physical fitness (even Trump’s) has the potential to backfire. I say all of the above. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/63 "2024-07-21T19:02:43Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > To think that Biden dropped out a full **4 months** later in the campaign than LBJ did in 1968. We’ve never seen an election have to re-coalesce around a new person so fast. That being said, in today’s era, 3.5 months is an eternity. ⁢ It is, but we only have until the DNC to re-coalesce. That’s less than a month, unless they move it. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/64 "2024-07-21T19:02:51Z")
I take a short power nap and bam this happens. I wonder how much this announcement was timed to in regard to the GOP convention in order to chase Trump off the TV for a week or so. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/65 "2024-07-21T19:03:11Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Biden isn’t resigning. He’s dropping out of the race. So Harris is the VP until January 21, 2025. No shit. I was responding to what would happen if he did ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/66 "2024-07-21T19:03:11Z")
No, she should totally go after his age. That was the whole point of getting Biden to drop out. The tables have turned and now age becomes the D’s biggest argument rather than the R’s. Plus, it would be fun to see Trumpers squirm after they harped on Biden’s age for years. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/67 "2024-07-21T19:04:37Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Guess flat earthers are right too! I’m going to save this comment, just in case a tell all political book is released in the next 2-5 years saying this was the case. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/68 "2024-07-21T19:04:42Z")
Hey guys, remember a few weeks ago when we were speculating about the Republicans having an open convention because Trump was slipping? Good times. . . . ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/69 "2024-07-21T19:04:51Z")
> Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line. Uh, no. Not this time. Pretty please. I’m All In For Kamala. I have to hope that there are a relatively significant number of independents (including the venerated ‘double haters’) who find nothing noteworthy and insurmountable to _dislike_ about Harris, and take this opportunity to let their latent MAGA-hater flags fly. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/70 "2024-07-21T19:05:11Z")
Good luck Harris. I’ve said it before and I’ll repeat. Please use your skills as a prosecutor to viscously attack Trump, put him on trial, and give everyone a show. …but you know what. Just win. Winning is good enough. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/71 "2024-07-21T19:07:08Z")
With any sort of luck something will make Trump drop out too and we’ll get a real barn burner with candidates that have a chance of out living me. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/72 "2024-07-21T19:07:09Z")
Going on age alone isn’t good. But she maybe could thread the needle. Since Biden dropped out after having actual mental issues, she’s free to point out the ones everyone’s been point out about Trump. I’ve been waiting for people to point out that Trump mixed up Haley and Pelosi so many times. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/73 "2024-07-21T19:08:22Z")
Heads you win, tails nobody cares enough to remember. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/74 "2024-07-21T19:11:11Z")
I’d rather she go after his Project 2025 vision of the future and the threat of further assaults on women’s rights and reproductive choices. And contrast it to a different vision that she represents. Let your VP running mate and other surrogates be the main attack dogs on Trump’s dishonesty, criminality, and general confused state. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/75 "2024-07-21T19:12:29Z")
Everyone should remember that this decision almost certainly happened behind the scenes and days ago. And probably with the knowledge of most senior Democrats (Biden, Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries). They probably agreed upon a plan and path forward to nominating Harris. Sure, delegates are free to vote for whom they want, but they are by definition loyal Democrats, and if the whole party signals Harris is the nominee, most will probably go along with it. There may be a token contest, just to pretend this wasn’t already decided. Maybe a few Democratic bank benchers challenge for the nomination. But I think this is decided and pretty much over, and the next few weeks will make that clear. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/76 "2024-07-21T19:12:34Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > No, she should totally go after his age. That was the whole point of getting Biden to drop out. The tables have turned and now age becomes the D’s biggest argument rather than the R’s. Plus, it would be fun to see Trumpers squirm after they harped on Biden’s age for years. And we could see the Trumpers squirm even more if Harris picks an actually-successful businessman for VP. (I’ve suggested Mark Cuban, not really as a joke.) Imagine Trump being blasted for being the epically inept “businessman” that he is. But I concede it’s far more likely that a governor is chosen as VP. As for Biden (to get back on track): it is so supremely sad that it had to go this way. I have a feeling that his family members, at least, knew that he was slipping, and just hoped that by avoiding press conferences and limiting all public appearances—and given that he was opposing a guy who might have been in prison if all had gone more according to rule-of-law—they thought they could get by. They thought that Joe could manage to avoid public embarrassments and win against the convicted criminal. But their taking that chance condemned Joe to this period of humiliation and anger. It took away his dignity. I’m not saying it was all his wife and sister and other family members. It was Joe, too. But they all let themselves believe things that weren’t true, and now they’re paying a price. I hope that history will glide over this period and just highlight his achievements, instead. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/77 "2024-07-21T19:14:09Z")
Buttigieg for VP? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/78 "2024-07-21T19:15:04Z")
Try that here: > [@Harris VP choice as she is the official presidential nominee of the Democratic Party for 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-if-she-is-the-nominee/1004552): > > Who knows what will happen but for the sake of discussion let’s assume Harris is the nominee. Who do you want and who do you think will be her VP running mate? Should she focus on swing state governor, shoring up on a possible weakness (vulnerable on immigration), demographic balance, an effective attack dog, other? [List of suggested candidates in post 173](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-if-she-is-the-nominee/1004552/173) ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/79 "2024-07-21T19:22:47Z")
Is anything hinky (well, more so than usual) going to happen with the ballots in Ohio? Remember the legislature was going to keep Biden off the ballot because the Democratic convention was after the mandated date for submission of candidates. Some sort of _ad hoc_ deal got made that seemed to avoid a crisis, but will Biden’s withdrawal cause this issue to surface again? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/80 "2024-07-21T19:30:17Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > Some sort of _ad hoc_ deal got made that seemed to avoid a crisis, but will Biden’s withdrawal cause this issue to surface again? If the Ohio GOP was serious about leaving the Democratic ticket off the ballot, they wouldn’t have fixed the last technicality. Ohio is a long shot for Dems, anyway, so Republicans probably have more to lose than gain by any shenanigans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=5)