# President Biden Dropping Out of Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540 "2024-07-21T18:05:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/81 "2024-07-21T19:30:18Z")
Are all those Democrats that wanted Biden to back out going to support Harris? What have we heard so far? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/82 "2024-07-21T19:30:23Z")
Has Trump responded to this yet? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/83 "2024-07-21T19:30:25Z")
I don’t understand the talk about someone besides Harris getting the nomination. It can’t be anyone _but_ Harris. As Biden’s running mate she gets his campaign cash, right? If the Democrats nominate someone else don’t they basically start from scratch in the fundraising department? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/84 "2024-07-21T19:31:57Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Has Trump responded to this yet? [“He is not fit to serve,” Trump continued. “And I ask — who is going to be running the country for the next five months?”](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-biden-is-not-fit-serve-who-going-running-country-next-5-months.amp) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/85 "2024-07-21T19:32:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are all those Democrats that wanted Biden to back out going to support Harris? What have we heard so far? I’m hearing unanimous support. Bill and Hillary Clinton just put out a statement to that effect. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/86 "2024-07-21T19:32:41Z")
_Never_ underestimate the ego of a politician. Even if they know they have no chance of winning, they will run just for the publicity, their Party and their country be damned. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/87 "2024-07-21T19:32:54Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > If the Democrats nominate someone else don’t they basically start from scratch in the fundraising department? Given the massive unpopularity of Trump among the Democratic voting base (an understatement,) you could nominate any average man/woman as the (D) nominee and he or she could raise many millions of dollars overnight. But yes, it helps to have direct access to Biden’s war chest, so Harris is still overwhelmingly like to get the nom. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/88 "2024-07-21T19:33:05Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Has Trump responded to this yet? When he does, he’ll barely mention Biden and instead launch an all-caps attack on Harris. He might even speak of Biden sympathetically, as a fellow-victim (of The Elites and of _That Awful Woman_ Harris). (Zounds, he doesn’t even have a nickname for her yet!) ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/89 "2024-07-21T19:33:39Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I don’t understand the talk about someone besides Harris getting the nomination. It can’t be anyone _but_ Harris. As Biden’s running mate she gets his campaign cash, right? If the Democrats nominate someone else don’t they basically start from scratch in the fundraising department? Not wanting to foster parallel conversations, I’d point you to some conversation about this in the other thread: > [@Selection of the new Democratic Presidential Ticket](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/16): > > A couple things: this only applies to the Biden/Harris Presidential Campaign account – not to funding held by the DNC or Biden-aligned PACs, who are free to redirect their spending however they like. The informed commentary I’ve seen opines that Harris would be able to take over the Presidential campaign account because her name is as much on it as Biden’s. But it is unprecedented, and I’m sure it’ll end up in court. If for any reason she couldn’t, Biden’s campaign could refund the money t… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/90 "2024-07-21T19:33:41Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > “He is not fit to serve,” Trump continued. “And I ask — who is going to be running the country for the next five months?” Trump is scared and pissed off. He had a plan against Biden. Now he’s fighting for air time against a tidal wave of excitement by the Dems. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/91 "2024-07-21T19:34:25Z")
Yep, and it’s fking hilarious. He is in full meltdown mode. [Donald Trump brutally responds after Joe Biden officially drops out of 2024 presidential race](https://www.ladbible.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-responds-joe-biden-drops-out-946152-20240721)? ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/92 "2024-07-21T19:34:28Z")
I’m seeing no one knew (maybe a very select few) of Biden’s decision until minutes before he announced it. His staff was still making donor calls today for him. (Nick Koenig, an Idaho graduate student, said a campaign staffer called at 1:12 p.m., asking: “Can Biden count on you?’” Koening added: “It’s absolutely bonkers.") I think Biden had made up his mind “within the last 48 hours”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/93 "2024-07-21T19:34:38Z")
The raw, naked race and sex hatred from the Right is coming _very_ soon. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/94 "2024-07-21T19:35:26Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I’m going to save this comment, just in case a tell all political book is released in the next 2-5 years saying this was the case. Will you also come back in 5 years if it doesn’t and admit you were wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/95 "2024-07-21T19:35:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The raw, naked race and sex hatred from the Right is coming _very_ soon. Thus ensuring that everyone eligible to vote who is something other than a white male, WILL make sure to vote—no matter how difficult GOP state operatives try to make it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/96 "2024-07-21T19:36:16Z")
This is getting off-topic, so please drop it. **Moderating**. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/97 "2024-07-21T19:36:31Z")
I kept telling my brother that of course Biden would insist he’s still running until the very minute he says otherwise; you keep bluffing up until the second you fold. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/98 "2024-07-21T19:37:48Z")
A few days ago, I asked a hypothetical question to a group of conservatives on a popular message board type platform. The question was, if you dislike Trump and aren’t voting for Biden because of his age, would you support Harris for president? The answer was a resounding and unanimous “No.” We get it. She’s black. And a woman. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/99 "2024-07-21T19:37:53Z")
Conventions used to be open and the masses did not know who was going to come out victorious. Now we’re in the social media age. There is plenty of time for the dems, anti trump, youth vote, double haters and undecides to coalesce around the Harris for President ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/100 "2024-07-21T19:39:17Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > A few days ago, I asked a hypothetical question to a group of conservatives on a popular message board type platform. The question was, if you dislike Trump and aren’t voting for Biden because of his age, would you support Harris for president? The answer was a resounding and unanimous “No.” > > We get it. She’s black. And a woman. I don’t think it’s that. It’s because she’s a liberal and a Democrat. Gavin Newsom is a white man and they wouldn’t vote for him either. Imagine if you asked a group of liberals, “Would you vote Republican if Trump dropped out and was replaced by a normal, young, average Republican?” They’d say no because they want a liberal Democrat to vote for. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540.md?page=6)