# President Bush is in trouble, isn't he? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 21, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452 "2003-02-21T01:43:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/21 "2003-02-21T17:27:05Z")
Jeez, Abe. You scared me for a minute. Just like when I found out Ashcroft was the ‘designated survivor’ for the last State of the Union address. ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/22 "2003-02-21T20:28:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Harborwolf \* > \*\*Personally, I plan on voting for anyone that is not Bush. \*\* [ul]🆒 [sup] **Gary Hart?** [/sup][sub] **or perhaps, Al?** [/sub][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/23 "2003-02-21T20:40:24Z")
Well, early in 1992 I didn’t think the Democrats had a chance either, because they had no real viable candidates. I hope W’s in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/24 "2003-02-21T23:09:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor \* > \*\ ***BWA-HA-HA-HA!** You crack me up, **Breezy**! > > Seriously, he’s boned. Unless he comes up with Osama’s servered head, & parades it through the streets of New York. > > Then, maybe. \*\* Actually, **Bosda** , he’s got to convince Saddam to do all that _for_ him. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/25 "2003-02-21T23:20:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ringo \* > \*\*Meaningful prognostications almost two years ahead of the election are unlikely - there’s way too much that will occur between now and then that is unknown. \*\* With less than two years until the election, there’s way too much that will have to occur between now and then to save his presidential butt. It’s not that long. In my opinion, that is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/26 "2003-02-21T23:22:21Z")
Blame the economy on a President? Why not the weather and the peccadilloes of the previous administration? Four years aren’t enough to create a trend, for one thing, and economics is a semi-stable system prone to nondeterminsitic bouts of instability, for another. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/27 "2003-02-21T23:44:59Z")
[Bush: Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity is Finally Over.](http://www.theonion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html) ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/28 "2003-02-21T23:57:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Derleth \* > \*\*Blame the economy on a President? Why not the weather and the peccadilloes of the previous administration? Four years aren’t enough to create a trend, for one thing, and economics is a semi-stable system prone to nondeterminsitic bouts of instability, for another. \*\* Huh? And I vote. My point is that all that means very little to those of us who are not economists, and/or are not interested in any more than whether we “feel poorer” or not. Many of us “felt rich” while Clinton was in office. See what I mean? ---
**Author:** ![NothingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@NothingMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NothingMan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/29 "2003-02-22T01:31:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scotticher \* > **I am becoming increasingly (and increasingly dismayed over it) convinced that this obsession with going to war is more a belief on our president’s part that if we go to war the economy will rebound DUE to the war and that Bush’s popularity will SOAR than any kind of real concern over what Hussein might do. The whole thing scares the pants off me.** I agree completely . . . hey anyone realize that two short years ago we actually had a _balanced budget_ ?! **Who** is spending money like it grows on trees ? ---
**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/30 "2003-02-22T05:11:29Z")
There will be so much money backing this ass in the next election that he will have a hard time losing. Big business loves him. Unfortunately, we have the best government money can buy. Worse yet, it’s our money – it’s built into the cost of everything we buy. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/31 "2003-02-22T05:42:33Z")
The freakin’ _oil companies_ love him. What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/32 "2003-02-22T05:57:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Harborwolf \* > \*\*I mean, Joe Lieberman is great, but he sounds too much like the dad from Alf to be commander in chief. > \*\* Bwhahaha! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/33 "2003-02-22T06:46:00Z")
I think **Harborwolf** is on to something. While a big “talking point” in the 1992 election was that electing a Democrat as President and simultaneously electing a Democratically controlled Congress would eliminate the “logjam” in government and get things (that some of us saw as ridiculous) done, exactly that happened, and Clinton couldn’t get any of his agenda through. He got next to nothing done and saw Congress become Republican on his watch. So many people saw him as a likely one-termer. But, as I saw and advised friends in 1994, the Republicans really didn’t have a thoroughbred in the chutes, and we wound up running stop-gap stalwart Bob Dole. I didn’t stay up late to watch the returns. Shoe’s on the other foot right now. We have a Republican President who may or may not oversee a great economic recovery, but who still runs very positive approval ratings, and is the incumbent, likely running against…, who? As in '94 for the Republicans, the Democrats just (with Al, I think, having timed his exit exquisitely) do not have a thoroughbred in the chutes. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/34 "2003-02-22T16:50:56Z")
"that if we go to war the economy will rebound DUE to the war " Well, if you say that how do you explain why the stock market drops whenever we talk about going to war? ---
**Author:** ![Anaxagoras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b77776/32.png) [@Anaxagoras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaxagoras)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/35 "2003-02-22T20:31:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hermann Cheruscan \* > **While I’m certainly no Bush fan, I can see him winning reelection, if only because the competition is so lame.** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Harborwolf \* > \*\*I don’t know. Bush could win reelection simply because the democrats have just about everybody running for president and none of them are even mildly impressive. \*\* I fully agree with these sentiments. Do the Democrats, or the Greens, or the Libertarians, or _anyone_ have a viable alternative to GHW Bush? Because if they don’t, we _will_ have six more years of the Bush legacy, and I shudder to think what that will mean for our country. I mean, Jesse Ventura is starting to look like a stateman to me … 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Texican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ebca7d/32.png) [@Texican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texican)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/36 "2003-02-22T20:53:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mangeorge \* > \*\*Huh? > And I vote. > My point is that all that means very little to those of us who are not economists, and/or are not interested in any more than whether we “feel poorer” or not. Many of us “felt rich” while Clinton was in office. > See what I mean? \*\* Yes, and what it means is that candidates have to campaign to simpletons instead of to those who bother to actually think. It truly amazes me those that somehow think that the inevitible train wreck that was the internet stock bubble wasn’t inevitible unless the previous administration had taken steps to cool things down. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/37 "2003-02-22T21:16:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Texican \* > \*\*the inevitible train wreck that was the internet stock bubble \*\* Well, thank god we dummies have brainy thinkers like _you_ to look up to. …Can I help you loosen that tangled metaphor of yours? ---
**Author:** ![jack\_ss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@jack\_ss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jack_ss)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/38 "2003-02-22T21:22:20Z")
I think this whole war against Saddam Hussein is just a cheap ploy to divert our attention from the economy. And we’ve got Kim Il Jong line up as the next enemy for the repuppetcans to protect us against so Cheney can get elected in 2008. I hope the Democrats can come up with a decent candidate in 2004. I’m too disillusioned to hope that the Greens or Libertarians or anyone else will actually stand a chance in presidential politics within my lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/39 "2003-02-22T22:26:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Harborwolf \* > \*\*Personally, I plan on voting for anyone that is not Bush. \*\* And so would 46% of those [polled in Pennsylvania](http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x4867.xml) recently, a key battleground state (43% would vote for Bush). ---
**Author:** ![flapcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@flapcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flapcats)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452/40 "2003-02-23T00:12:15Z")
When will people outside the USA get to vote? Since Bush’s decisions affect us all we should have the right to vote in the US elections too - especially as most of us are MUCH closer to Iraq and the middle east than anyone in America. If we all had a say then perhaps we’d not be on the brink of war now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-bush-is-in-trouble-isnt-he/156452.md?page=3)