# President Donald Trump: "Democrats Produce Mobs, Republicans Produce Jobs" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 20, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233 "2018-10-20T01:26:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/1 "2018-10-20T01:26:21Z")
President Trump appears to have settled on his closing argument for the 2018 campaign season: “[Democrats produce mobs, Republicans produce jobs](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/19/trump_democrats_produce_mobs_republicans_produce_jobs.html)” Personally, I think it’s rather catchy, and a sadly-accurate reflection of the current state of affairs in American politics, but I’m curious what my fellow Dopers think. Have any of you (I’m particularly curious what the leftists think, but the couple of other conservatives are welcome to opine as well) been turned off by leftist incivility, vandalism, destruction of property, violence, mob actions, etc? Even if you personally approve, do you worry that it might be turning off moderates / independent voters? Or do you think this sort of thing will be a great electoral boon for Dems? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/2 "2018-10-20T01:30:40Z")
Hmm really makes you think. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/3 "2018-10-20T01:36:39Z")
Honestly, I don’t really see a lot of mobs (nor do I think that Trump has been particularly great at producing jobs or a sustainable economy, but YMMV). Compared to the 60’s or even the 80’s we live in relatively tranquil times, IMHO… ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/4 "2018-10-20T01:43:34Z")
Look at the audience at a Trump campaign rally - mobs of slobs without jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/5 "2018-10-20T01:51:31Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Personally, I think it’s rather catchy, and a sadly-accurate Trump has never given a shit whether anything he says is accurate. He only cares about its effect. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/6 "2018-10-20T01:53:50Z")
> > > Meridith McGraw @meridithmcgraw ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/7 "2018-10-20T02:02:47Z")
“It must be true if it rhymes.” Words of an intellectual giant. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/8 "2018-10-20T02:04:30Z")
In the interests of staying on the right side of the Pit border, I’ll just say that this is typical of the usual quality of your arguments, **Ditka**. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/9 "2018-10-20T02:04:47Z")
[New York police arrest first two suspects in Proud Boys street brawl](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-police-arrest-first-proud-boys-member-after-street-n921966) ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/10 "2018-10-20T02:11:14Z")
[A literal torch wielding mob](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12sjwk9FBE&bpctr=1540003232) ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/11 "2018-10-20T02:35:51Z")
GOP leaders are literally leading violent mobs while Trump destroys jobs with fruitless trade wars. Your whole party is lost is delusions. Time will tell if you bring the country down with you. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/12 "2018-10-20T02:38:54Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > … Trump destroys jobs with fruitless trade wars. … The unemployment rate is currently … what … 3.7%? He hasn’t destroyed all that many. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/13 "2018-10-20T02:44:05Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Look at the audience at a Trump campaign rally - mobs of slobs without jobs. You’re guessing at their employment status based on their appearance? That doesn’t seem like the sort of thing your side would normally approve of. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/14 "2018-10-20T02:46:16Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Honestly, I don’t really see a lot of mobs (nor do I think that Trump has been particularly great at producing jobs or a sustainable economy, but YMMV). Compared to the 60’s or even the 80’s we live in relatively tranquil times, IMHO… I wasn’t alive at the time, but I think I safely concede that mob actions were a bigger problem in the 60’s. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/15 "2018-10-20T02:46:18Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > President Trump appears to have settled on his closing argument for the 2018 campaign season: “[Democrats produce mobs, Republicans produce jobs](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/19/trump_democrats_produce_mobs_republicans_produce_jobs.html)” > > Personally, I think it’s rather catchy, and a sadly-accurate reflection of the current state of affairs in American politics, but I’m curious what my fellow Dopers think. Have any of you (I’m particularly curious what the leftists think, but the couple of other conservatives are welcome to opine as well) been turned off by leftist incivility, vandalism, destruction of property, violence, mob actions, etc? Even if you personally approve, do you worry that it might be turning off moderates / independent voters? Or do you think this sort of thing will be a great electoral boon for Dems? Good Lord, talk about making a whole buttload of assumptions as to the truth of things in order to poison the question. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/16 "2018-10-20T02:46:19Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > The unemployment rate is currently … what … 3.7%? He hasn’t destroyed all that many. Give it time. [Ford Prepares for Mass Layoffs After Losing $1 Billion to Trump’s Trade Tariffs, Report Says](http://fortune.com/2018/10/09/ford-stock-today-layoffs-trump-trade-tariffs/) > [@](#): > > Ford is having a bad year in 2018. Its stock is down 29%, and the tariffs imposed by President Trump have reportedly cost the company $1 billion, as the company is in the midst of a reorganization. Now, the company is announcing layoffs. > > Jim Hackett, Ford’s CEO, is working to engineer a $25.5 billion restructuring of the automaker, hoping to cut costs and remain competitive, the Wall Street Journal reports. But auto sales are down, and one reason is the trade tariffs that Trump has imposed on metals and other goods. According to Bloomberg, Hackett has said they have already cost the company $1 billion in profit and could do “more damage” if the disputes aren’t resolved quickly. It’s not just jobs that are lost. [Facing threat of tariffs, China buyers cancel orders for U.S. soybeans](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/facing-threat-of-tariffs-china-buyers-cancel-orders-for-u-s-soybeans)(May 8) > [@](#): > > With the threat of tariffs and counter-tariffs between Washington and Beijing looming, Chinese buyers are canceling orders for U.S. soybeans, a trend that could deal a blow to American farmers if it continues. > > At the same time, farmers in China are being encouraged to plant more soy, apparently to help make up for any shortfall from the United States. > > Beijing has included soybeans on a list of $50 billion of U.S. exports on which it has said it would impose 25 percent tariffs if the United States follows through on its threats to impose the same level of tariffs on the same value of Chinese goods. The U.S. tariffs could kick in later this month; China would likely retaliate soon after. [ ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/17 "2018-10-20T02:48:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > The unemployment rate is currently … what … 3.7%? He hasn’t destroyed all that many. At one point Trump claimed that the commonly reported unemployment rate was extremely misleading, and the real numbers should be much higher. I suppose he’s okay with it now, despite the fact that the labor force participation rate remains very low. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/18 "2018-10-20T02:48:13Z")
Democrats display wit, republicans eat shit. Gee, this is fun. The “president” is dimwitted chimp who inherited a healthy economy. He’s created nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/19 "2018-10-20T02:49:10Z")
Well we might not have healthcare for people with pre-existing conditions, clean water, breathable air, rights for women and minorities, and a future climate for our children, but we have an awesome slogan. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/20 "2018-10-20T02:49:18Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > You’re guessing at their employment status based on their appearance? That doesn’t seem like the sort of thing your side would normally approve of. But it’s something your side approves of. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233.md?page=2)