# President Donald Trump: "Democrats Produce Mobs, Republicans Produce Jobs" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 20, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233 "2018-10-20T01:26:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/21 "2018-10-20T03:13:52Z")
It’s a pretty moronic slogan and will appeal only to those already predisposed to vote Republican. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/22 "2018-10-20T03:17:43Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > But it’s something your side approves of. I disagree, but in this thread the only example of it came from a leftist. Do you approve of that or not? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/23 "2018-10-20T03:22:44Z")
Credit where credit is due. They’ve gone from three word slogans to a _six_ word slogan. Progress should be acknowledged. (“Make America Great Again” doesn’t count because they usually abbreviate it.) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/24 "2018-10-20T03:27:30Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I disagree, **but in this thread** the only example of it came from a leftist. Do you approve of that or not? Narrow the focus until the result you want remains? [Why Republicans’ Accusations Of ‘Paid Protesters’ Are Worse Than They Seem](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-republicans-accusations-of-paid-protesters-are_us_58a47b26e4b0cd37efcfef46) > [@](#): > > After a boisterous and humiliating town hall meeting last week, Utah Representative Jason Chaffetz dismissed the jeering crowd as “paid protesters,” a claim that Trump, Kellyanne Conway, and Sean Spicer have all used before, most recently in regards to the opposition of the Muslim ban. Like most of Trump’s other inflammatory accusations — of 3 million fraudulent votes in the election, of dangerous and un-vetted refugees flooding our borders, of the media ignoring terrorist attacks — this one is equally baseless, malicious, and manipulative. However, it also speaks to a broader sense of entitlement over what qualifies as “authentic.” > > When Trump first made the “paid protesters” argument, reporters quickly debunked the evidence presented: namely, that a website called [DemandProtest.com](http://DemandProtest.com) had posted job ads in more than 20 cities offering hirees $2,500 a month to demonstrate in D.C. Though such a website did exist, along with a contact number based in San Francisco, Snopes, an online fact-checking site, found no companies registered under “Demand Protest, LLC.” After originally reporting that Donald Trump “may have a point about paid protesters,” The Washington Times later retracted the story: “The polished Demand Protest website, the [Backpage.com](http://Backpage.com) ads recruiting paid protesters for the Trump inauguration: **Apparently it was all a hoax.** ” ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/25 "2018-10-20T03:28:32Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > [New York police arrest first two suspects in Proud Boys street brawl](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-police-arrest-first-proud-boys-member-after-street-n921966) From the article: > [@](#): > > … Surveillance video showed one of the anti-fascist protesters throwing a bottle at the Proud Boys, who then retaliated with punches. … ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/26 "2018-10-20T03:39:26Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Narrow the focus until the result you want remains? > [Why Republicans’ Accusations Of ‘Paid Protesters’ Are Worse Than They Seem](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-republicans-accusations-of-paid-protesters-are_us_58a47b26e4b0cd37efcfef46) If the roles were reversed, someone would have been along to dismiss your post #20 as ‘whataboutism’. Rather than do that, I tried to engage you in further conversation. If you’re just going to evade every question posed to you, it’s not going to be a useful conversation. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/27 "2018-10-20T03:45:13Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If the roles were reversed, someone would have been along to dismiss your post #20 as ‘whataboutism’. Rather than do that, I tried to engage you in further conversation. **If you’re just going to evade every question** posed to you, it’s not going to be a useful conversation. Like fuck I am. You’re the one who wants to confine discussion to a single example in this thread as a means to smear the left. Meanwhile, the so-called President and GOP leadership does the same while you cheer. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/28 "2018-10-20T03:49:11Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Like fuck I am. … If the above is true, then answer this question: > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I disagree, but in this thread the only example of it came from a leftist. Do you approve of that or not? It shouldn’t be difficult. A simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ would suffice. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/29 "2018-10-20T03:53:13Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > From the article: A bottle? Shit, our grandfathers _shot_ nazis. Well, maybe not yours. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/30 "2018-10-20T03:58:39Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If the above is true, then answer this question: > > It shouldn’t be difficult. A simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ would suffice. False equivalence. Unless **AnalogSignal** is actually a national level ranking Democrat, then his(?) opinion does not represent the views of the Left (or Democratic Party), only his own. Unlike the opinions of the President, Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader and various prominent Congressthings. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/31 "2018-10-20T04:02:17Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > False equivalence. Unless **AnalogSignal** is actually a national level ranking Democrat, then his(?) opinion does not represent the views of the Left (or Democratic Party), only his own. > Unlike the opinions of the President, Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader and various prominent Congressthings. I wasn’t making any equivalence at all, false or true. I am neither comparing him to Republicans, nor contending that his opinion represents the views of the entire Left. I simply asked if you approved of him making unfavorable assumptions about people based on their appearance or not. Do you? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/32 "2018-10-20T04:03:12Z")
Leftist incivility? I guess threatening to lock your political opponents up in prison or suggesting to your followers that they should shoot them isn’t consider ill-mannered among the OP’s social circle. Because there’s a prominent Republican who’s done both of those things. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/33 "2018-10-20T04:11:02Z")
It’s only a mob if it’s liberals protesting a Supreme Court nomination. When it’s Republicans, it’s called “very fine people”. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/34 "2018-10-20T04:24:03Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > From the article: Not remotely relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/35 "2018-10-20T08:53:48Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > Not remotely relevant. One side’s throwing bottles, the other is [setting up on rooftops with firearms](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/10/armed_protesters_were_on_portl.html). BOTH SIDES BOTH SIDES BOTH SIDES BOTH SIDES. Death toll for violent leftists during the Trump administration - STILL zero. **HD** is just terrified of people that couldn’t give a shit about him. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/36 "2018-10-20T09:22:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > President Trump appears to have settled on his closing argument for the 2018 campaign season: “[Democrats produce mobs, Republicans produce jobs](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/19/trump_democrats_produce_mobs_republicans_produce_jobs.html)” Wait… those guys in Charlottesville marching with torches, recently convicted of assaulting minorities, and running a car thru the crowd and killing someone were _Democrats_? I thought the president said they were “very fine people?” The people sending death threats to Blasey Ford? The ones stalking Sandy Hook parents? And shooting at abortion clinics? Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/37 "2018-10-20T09:52:33Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > President Trump appears to have settled on his closing argument for the 2018 campaign season: “[Democrats produce mobs, Republicans produce jobs](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/19/trump_democrats_produce_mobs_republicans_produce_jobs.html)” Except of course, the current boom is due to the stewardship of Obama and that Trump hasn’t done anything that has affected the current economy. His trade tariffs have yet to affect the economy. > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Trump has never given a shit whether anything he says is accurate. He only cares about its effect. Spot on. > [@BlankSlate](#): > > Democrats display wit, republicans eat shit. One side is being wittily rude; the other is just being crude. Guess which plays better? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/38 "2018-10-20T10:25:16Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > A bottle? Shit, our grandfathers _shot_ nazis. Well, maybe not yours. Back off. Way off. Let’s not get personal and let’s avoid making direct insults. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-donald-trump-democrats-produce-mobs-republicans-produce-jobs/823233/39 "2018-10-20T10:52:40Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > President Trump appears to have settled on his closing argument for the 2018 campaign season: “[Democrats produce mobs, Republicans produce jobs](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/19/trump_democrats_produce_mobs_republicans_produce_jobs.html)” > > Personally, I think it’s rather catchy, and a sadly-accurate reflection of the current state of affairs in American politics, but I’m curious what my fellow Dopers think. Have any of you (I’m particularly curious what the leftists think, but the couple of other conservatives are welcome to opine as well) been turned off by leftist incivility, vandalism, destruction of property, violence, mob actions, etc? Even if you personally approve, do you worry that it might be turning off moderates / independent voters? Or do you think this sort of thing will be a great electoral boon for Dems? Do you think the slogan is factually accurate? ---
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