# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/552 "2024-02-03T11:56:17Z")
Agreed. Granted, from a cynical perspective it certainly doesn’t hurt his campaign, but I think he’d go to every one of those ceremonies he could, just from respect. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/553 "2024-02-03T13:08:38Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Troubling news; Dark Brandon almost got loose last month. Calling Key and Peele! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/554 "2024-02-03T16:57:13Z")
Well, dang! MAGAt heads exploding all over town. > **[Fox News admits the economy is 'as good as it gets'](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221119/-Fox-News-admits-the-economy-is-as-good-as-it-gets?pm_campaign=blog&pm_medium=rss&pm_source=)** > > Friday's jobs report from the Department of Labor shows that the U.S. added an impressive 353,000 jobs in January. Unemployment remained at just 3.7%. The unemployment rate has been under 4% for two ... > … > Because even Fox News agrees that this economy is in the “Goldilocks” zone. This is as good as it gets. > … > If Republicans were counting on [bad-economy stories](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/17/2147718/-Consumer-confidence-is-increasing-Democrats-must-plug-their-accomplishments-early-and-often) to bury Democratic chances in the upcoming election, they might need to think of something else. Because it sounds like President Joe Biden has already, to steal a phrase, "made America great again.” Only he’s done it without the racism, misogyny, and anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric—and without turning every national park into an oil refinery. > … I know, I know-- trumpy is saying things are booming because people are anticipating his return to the presidency. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/555 "2024-02-03T20:44:44Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Further evidence that the idea that the “vast majority” of union folks will vote for Trump is not true and was based on a simple gaffe from the union president in one moment of an interview. Oh, you and your evidence! Don’t worry though; more bullshit talking points based on fabricated nonsense are sure to be trotted out soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/556 "2024-02-03T20:46:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I know, I know-- trumpy is saying things are booming because people are anticipating his return to the presidency. Whatever. I say things are booming because people are anticipating Trump being frog-marched into a jail cell. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/557 "2024-02-04T02:57:26Z")
It’s certainly raised _my_ spirits! ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/558 "2024-02-04T03:30:29Z")
Biden tonight won 96% of the vote in the South Carolina primary. However, the turnout was only about 25% of the 2020 primary vote, and he received fewer than half the votes he did in 2020. Glass half empty: lack of enthusiasm Glass half-full: Trump only got 51% in the Iowa caucus What say you all? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/559 "2024-02-04T03:41:52Z")
Who is Biden running against that has a snowball’s chance in the Antarctic to get the nomination? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/560 "2024-02-04T03:52:38Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > What say you all? In 2020 Biden was in a seven-way dog fight with Sanders, Steyer, Buttigeig, Warren, Gabbard, and Klobuchar by the time he hit South Carolina. He ended up winning a plurality of 48.6% of the votes in that crowded field and split the delegates with the 2nd place Sanders 39-15. Completely different campaign this time. This was an anointment, not a contest. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/561 "2024-02-04T04:04:28Z")
Glass half-full. Who did Trump run against in Iowa that has a snowball’s chance in the Antarctic to get the nomination? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/562 "2024-02-04T04:05:21Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Glass half empty: lack of enthusiasm Naw, Its known that Biden has the nom. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/563 "2024-02-04T04:19:11Z")
Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley. (Both of who actually could be the nominee if Trump was not running.) On the other hand, Marianne Williamson wouldn’t have that chance unless she were running unopposed . . . and even then it’s not a certainty. Dean Phillips is conceivable . . . but then so were Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale. I propose this as his campaign slogan, _Vote for Phillips, Minnesota deserves a hat trick!_ ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/564 "2024-02-04T04:37:16Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > It’s certainly raised _my_ spirits! So I should raise a glass of spirits? Like I need an excuse … ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/565 "2024-02-04T10:34:17Z")
Turnout is almost always low in non competitive primaries. Pretty sure it was about this low in '12. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/566 "2024-02-04T10:46:52Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I wonder what kind of excuse Trump would have made so that he could be anywhere else but on that tarmac. “It was extremely cold that day, one of the coldest days they’ve ever had there. They said, “sir, it’s too cold, you have to stay warm”, these are very tough guys, and it’s so cold they’re in tears. And they’re saying the Earth is supposed to be warming, but it’s cold, tremendously cold in terms of temperature. Very smart. (taps on forehead) But the fake news doesn’t like to talk about the cold, all they say on the television is “TRUMP SNUBS VETS” but there’s no snub, no snub, the snub is on the Fake News.” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/567 "2024-02-04T12:39:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I know, I know-- trumpy is saying things are booming because people are anticipating his return to the presidency. Whatever. In the latest 538 podcast, they mention an interesting stat: While both Democrats and Republicans tend to say the economy is doing better (than the average response) when their party holds the presidency, and that its doing worse when the other party is, Republicans swing further than Democrats, at both ends. That is, more Democrats than Republicans are smart enough to recognize that not everything about the economy is necessarily bad when a Republican is in office, nor is everything necessarily good when a Democrat is, and that the economy doesn’t magically change overnight on Inauguration Day, and that in any case a president doesn’t have full control over the economy. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/568 "2024-02-04T13:08:09Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > …a president doesn’t have full control over the economy. Well, THIS is obvious to anyone with a molecule of common sense, but the president always gets both blame and credit for things that the president has little to do with and/or no control over. The president is a target for people’s disappointments and aspirations. Goes with the job. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/569 "2024-02-04T14:10:53Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Glass half empty: lack of enthusiasm > Glass half-full: Trump only got 51% in the Iowa caucus > > What say you all? The glass is all we have to drink. Everyone knows Biden is going to be the nominee, so why drag your ass out to vote in a pointless primary? Any other incumbent President with the economy he has would be unchallenged in the primary. Even with a lower turnout by “unenthusiastic” Biden voters, the challengers got only 4% between them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/570 "2024-02-04T20:26:35Z")
> **[30 Things Joe Biden Did as President You Might Have Missed](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046)** > > Drone armies, expanded overtime pay and over-the-counter birth control pills are just some of the new things Biden has ushered in as president that you might not have heard about. _Expanded overtime guarantees for millions_ First over-the-counter birth control pill to hit U.S. stores in 2024\* _Gun violence prevention and gun safety get a boost_ _Renewable power is the No. 2 source of electricity in the U.S. — and climbing_ _Preventing discriminatory mortgage lending_ A sweeping crackdown on “junk fees” and overdraft charges\* Forcing Chinese companies to open their books\* and more. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/571 "2024-02-04T20:43:53Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Gun violence prevention and gun safety get a boost The article says this is for money for mental health and wellness in schools. That’s great, but it’s quite a stretch to turn that into their subheading of “gun violence prevention and gun safety.” Perhaps “Para-educational resource funding gets a boost.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=29)