# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/41 "2023-02-10T20:33:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But another thing I noticed in the SOTU is that he seemed tired. Did you see any of the videos of him working the crowd after the speech? He was out there for another hour or so, and didn’t look tired to me. I think he just doesn’t look his best on stage, but up close, he still seems to be killing it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/42 "2023-02-10T20:39:52Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I think he just doesn’t look his best on stage, but up close, he still seems to be killing it. It’s that first bit that gives me just a bit of concern. (Not a lot.) ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/43 "2023-02-10T20:54:40Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > How will he fare with those key voters when his opponent is younger, more vital-looking, and able to string together several consecutive coherent sentences? > > I’m only half-joking when I say, have you watched Ron DeSantis speak? Charlie Crist mopped the floor with him at the debate for Florida governor. He is not quick on his feet, and gets rattled pretty easily. I’m not worried about a match-up between him and Biden. It’s not 1960. Voters have infinitely more ways to see the candidates than in head-to-head debates. DeSantis may be charisma-free but he’s utterly conquered Florida; if voters’ exposure to the candidates is from TV recaps of random campaign stops with soundbite quotes, they could simply go with the younger, fitter-looking candidate. > [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > So how does Biden beat the younger, sexier candidate? > > It depends on the candidate. Trump, obviously, is neither much younger (he’s less than 4 years younger) and I’m sure he isn’t “sexier” by most objective measurements. I’m ruling out Trump as the GOP nominee. I just don’t see it happening, and if it does, he loses to Biden or anyone else the Dems nominate. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/44 "2023-02-11T14:06:38Z")
That’s how the early polling has been going. In a two-horse race DeSantis has been frequently leading Trump. But when additional candidates are introduced into the mix, Trump’s share remains virtually unchanged and he ends up winning by plurality. The Trump campaign will happily take winning all those primaries with 35-40% of the vote; they want lots of declared opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/45 "2023-02-11T14:10:22Z")
That’s pretty much what happened in 2016. God forbid history repeats itself. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/46 "2023-04-24T04:10:16Z")
NBC said tonight the President chose his campaign manager tonight, an experienced campaign manager. It’s Cesar Chavez’ grand daughter too-an interesting choice. It sounds like she’s really dedicated and knows people. Maybe it’ll make it easy to get some undecided voters too. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/47 "2023-04-24T18:50:35Z")
And now this: > **[Biden's 2024 campaign has been hiding in plain sight](https://apnews.com/article/biden-election-2024-president-trump-democrats-1e125b32d1a376dff5a1b74748a71476)** > > President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign has been hiding in plain sight all along. The contours of the 2024 campaign that Biden will formally launch with a video as soon as this week will look a lot like his messaging and policy moves from the past... ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/48 "2023-04-25T12:48:19Z")
And he makes it official this morning: > **[Biden announces reelection bid, saying battle for nation's soul isn't complete...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/25/politics/joe-biden-running-2024/index.html)** > > President Joe Biden formally announced his bid for reelection Tuesday, setting off a battle to convince the country his record merits another four years in the White House and his age won't impede his ability to govern. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/49 "2023-04-25T13:18:52Z")
CBS’s take on it: > **[Top ranks of Biden's reelection campaign taking shape](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-reelection-campaign-quentin-fulks-2024/)** > > President Biden's anticipated reelection campaign is staffing up ahead of 2024. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/50 "2023-04-25T13:22:22Z")
Is it true the Democratic party says there will be no debates? I can guess why. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/51 "2023-04-25T13:28:14Z")
What is your guess? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/52 "2023-04-25T13:38:49Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Is it true the Democratic party says there will be no debates? Parties with incumbent presidents running for reelection never engage in primary debates. The RNC didn’t schedule any debates in 2020. As far as the general election goes, only the Republicans have threatened to not participate in the Presidential debates. The RNC announced recently that it has officially withdrawn from the Commission on Presidential Debates. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/53 "2023-04-25T22:31:13Z")
> **['Dark Brandon' meme makes an appearance on Biden's new campaign website](https://www.npr.org/2023/04/25/1171885259/dark-brandon-meme-makes-an-appearance-on-bidens-new-campaign-website)** > > President Biden's 2024 reelection campaign team has embraced his darker alter ego — "Dark Brandon," featuring beaming red laser eyes. It shows up on error pages and T-shirts. > … > “Biden’s embrace of the Dark Brandon meme shows not only an awareness of the meme and what it represents to many of his followers, but self-awareness of how the meme livens and rejuvenates his public persona,” Romano told NPR. > > Romano added: “Especially as he gears up for a difficult re-election, look for him to lean even more into the ‘Dark Brandon’ meme on social media as a way of galvanizing supporters online.” Awareness is good. Fight lasers with lasers. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/54 "2023-04-26T00:13:35Z")
He’s running. I don’t think he’s a shoo-in for the ticket the way other incumbents have been in the past. A lot can happen in the next year and a half. ---
**Author:** ![Beesnest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Beesnest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beesnest)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/55 "2023-04-26T00:37:49Z")
Let’s keep his name on the nightly news. No more… Representative X misspoke her morning tweet and the whole world looked and pointed. Say what is happening in government and what it is going to mean for you, your state and the state of the Union. Biden sent FEMA funds to Florida to repair the flood damage. Do some follow up CNN. Show some trucks rolling. It is a good time, IMHO, for a Secretary shuffle. Give everyone a step up. Follow up on the success. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/56 "2023-04-26T00:47:24Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I don’t think he’s a shoo-in for the ticket the way other incumbents have been in the past. Unless a health issue arises, he’s a shoo-in. If I’m wrong, my question to you is — who is going to be his Ted Kennedy (winner of New York and California primaries, over Carter, in 1980)? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/57 "2023-04-26T00:57:12Z")
It’s a bit of a bad sign that Harry Belafonte, who wrote great New York Times op-ed’s against Trump the last two times, won’t get to do it a third time, having died the day Biden announced. I have near-zero belief in the value of optimism and am really worried about Trump’s polling numbers, against Biden, being so steady. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/58 "2023-04-26T01:52:43Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > > > I don’t think he’s a shoo-in for the ticket the way other incumbents have been in the past. > > Unless a health issue arises, he’s a shoo-in. If I’m wrong, my question to you is — who is going to be his Ted Kennedy (winner of New York and California primaries, over Carter, in 1980)? Hard agree. Who’s going to challenge him in the primary, and on what basis? “He’s too old” isn’t enough of a rallying to take down an incumbent President. There’s no significant faction of the Democratic coalition that’s overly upset with him. I’d put greater odds on Harris not making the ticket than Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/59 "2023-04-26T13:41:55Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Who’s going to challenge him in the primary, and on what basis? Well, Sanders just endorsed Biden, so that takes the wind out of a few sails. > **[Bernie Sanders endorses Biden, rules out 2024 bid of his own](https://apnews.com/article/bernie-sanders-biden-endorsement-2024-d8f0772b117e2bf83e1062708ea651c0)** > > Sen. Bernie Sanders says he is forgoing another presidential bid of his own and endorsing President Joe Biden’s reelection. The leading progressive was Biden’s chief rival in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary. He told The Associated Press on... I agree, if Biden is healthy a year from now, he’s the candidate. This election will come down to a contest of Republican bullshit about “If you elect a Democrat, the world will explode!”, and the Democrats pointing out that US voters did just that four years ago, and the world is still currently un-exploded, and is actually getting a bit better for some people. If the Democrats bring in a new candidate, it will be harder to make the “Stay the course” argument, which is their best shot at winning. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/60 "2023-04-26T13:57:48Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Is it true the Democratic party says there will be no debates? > I can guess why. Is it true that in 2020 there were no Republican primary debates? Can you guess why? More dramatically, is it true that in 2020 many states _cancelled their primaries or caucuses_ rather than having Trump face an opponent? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=4)