# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/712 "2024-02-13T22:15:32Z")
Something something Biden admin something something rigged Superbowl something Taylor Swift. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/713 "2024-02-13T22:33:15Z")
Biden brought out Dark Brandon to comment on the Chiefs win: > ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/714 "2024-02-14T00:29:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Ok, what am I missing? Why is this in the Joe Biden thread? (I can be dense…) Taylor Swift endorsed Joe last election. She is expected to do so this year. She is super popular. The mAGAs and Fox "news’ heads are exploding at the idea. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/715 "2024-02-14T02:58:20Z")
Yes, only Faux can have an army of mindless enthusiastic easily biddable followers. Anyone else developing the same capability is totally dangerous and against the Right Way Things Should Be. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/716 "2024-02-14T10:45:19Z")
Did she endorse Joe last time? I thought she just pushed her fans to vote? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/717 "2024-02-14T15:54:23Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Did she endorse Joe last time? I thought she just pushed her fans to vote? She did. > **[Taylor Swift endorses Joe Biden for President](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1242483)** > > Swift had largely stayed out of politics before 2018 out of fear of isolating her audience. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/718 "2024-02-14T21:16:01Z")
As Loach noted above, yes she did endorse Biden last time. More so, encouraging young people to get out and vote is tantamount to vote for the D candidate, at least as far as the GOP is concerned. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/719 "2024-02-14T21:37:26Z")
Trump doesn’t debate. He just insults people and stalks around the stage like a petulant, spoiled, silver spoon douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/720 "2024-02-14T22:26:31Z")
I really hope Democrats start reminding people of this clip every time we get a mass shooting; > ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/721 "2024-02-14T22:54:04Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I really hope Democrats start reminding people of this clip every time we get a mass shooting If voters gave a shit about gun control we’d have Dem supermajorities in both houses of Congress. No mass shooting has moved the needle yet. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/722 "2024-02-14T22:57:08Z")
I’m afraid that’s true. Congress did nothing even when members of the House were shot (Gabby Giffords and those at the Congressional baseball game). ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/723 "2024-02-15T01:20:07Z")
Oh, I agree. But Biden isn’t going to get away with a basement campaign this time around. A debate would dispel rumors of his failing mind, and refusal to debate, like his refusal to take a cognitive test, looks suspicious and will only make things worse. 86% of Americans think Joe Biden is too mentally compromised to be president for four more years. That should be a five alarm fire in the DNC. Biden either has to go out and really demonstrate that he’s got all his faculties, or he will lose the next election. If you are really scared of Trump, you should be equaly concerned anout Biden. Because as things stand now, Trump is likely to beat him. And if Biden IS starting to show signs of dementia or senility, it’s only going to get worse. And I think he definitely is. Can he make it to the election without doing or saying something that makes it clear he is unfit? And if one of the court cases or his health takes Trump out of the game, Biden is in even worse trouble. The two men need each other, as they are the only people they can each beat. Neither should be running for President. I still think the plan is to get Joe through the primaries, then have him announce a health issue and resign before or at the convention. This frees the electors to vote for anyone else, and they do not have to pick Kamala Harris. Otherwise, once the convention is over, if Joe drops out Kamala takes over. And she’s even less popular than Joe. Say hello to presidential candidate Gavin Newsom. ---
**Author:** ![3AxisCtrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/ecd19e/32.png) [@3AxisCtrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3AxisCtrl)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/724 "2024-02-15T01:39:38Z")
Another bad look for Biden in this NBC News article: [Biden attacked Hur for asking him when Beau died. That didn’t happen, sources say.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/biden-attacked-hur-asking-beau-died-didnt-happen-sources-say-rcna138709) This makes it look like even his recollection of the interview with the special counsel is significantly flawed. ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/725 "2024-02-15T01:41:42Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > 86% of Americans think Joe Biden is too mentally compromised to be president for four more years. Is ‘too mentally compromised’ your phrase or the poll’s? The question I saw was ‘too old to serve another term’. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/726 "2024-02-15T01:43:48Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > 86% of Americans think Joe Biden is too mentally compromised to be president for four more years. That would be concerning if you were stating a fact instead of [twisting the results](https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-think-both-biden-and-trump-are-too-old-serve-second-terms) of a recent poll to fit your narrative. The question was whether Trump, Biden, both, or neither are “too old” to be president. 86% answered either “only Biden” or “both Biden and Trump.” The question was not about whether either candidate is “too mentally compromised” to be president. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/727 "2024-02-15T01:45:54Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Can he make it to the election without doing or saying something that makes it clear he is unfit? Clear to me? Almost surely, I will not see him as unfit. Clear to you? Almost surely, you will find him clearly unfit. Clear to the median American voter? There’s the question. I do think that the Democratic ticket is at risk. I remember when they used to make fun of President Ford as some kind of clumsy oaf, due to having tripped a few times, when actually he was a former athlete in great physical shape. Once these memes get out, persuadable voters start looking for a recurrence, and find it. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I still think the plan is to get Joe through the primaries, then have him announce a health issue and resign before or at the convention. Plan? This famed Will Rogers quip remains relevant: > [@](#): > > I am not a member of any _organized_ party — I am a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/728 "2024-02-15T01:48:17Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > 86% of Americans think Joe Biden is too mentally compromised to be president for four more years. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/729 "2024-02-15T01:49:36Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I still think the plan is to get Joe through the primaries, then have him announce a health issue and resign before or at the convention. This is literally the same CT talking point Loser Donald has been flogging for five years now. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/730 "2024-02-15T01:50:43Z")
Link for you: > **[Overwhelming majority of Americans think Biden is too old for another term: POLL](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589)** > > Most Americans (86%) think President Joe Biden is too old to serve another term as president, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll. 59% of Americans also think Trump is too old. And 70% don’t want either candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/731 "2024-02-15T01:51:31Z")
None of that backs up your claim that > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > 86% of Americans think Joe Biden is too mentally compromised to be president for four more years. “Too old” != “mentally compromised”. Moreover - too old compared to who? A hypothetical 50-year-old candidate who doesn’t exist and is several years too late to throw their hat in the ring, or the guy who’s the same age now that Biden was when Republicans were calling him too old four years ago and spinning the exact same story about how he was going to bow out at the convention in favor of Michelle Obama? (Which, spoilers, didn’t happen, just like it didn’t happen in 2016 when Hillary was gonna drop dead before the convention. Spoilers, still alive and more mentally fit than Donald Trump.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=37)