# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/972 "2024-03-06T00:56:07Z")

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I hadn’t noticed. And I certainly don’t think the vast majority of wobbly or undecided voters have either, unless listening to a pundit make an opinion about it.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/973 "2024-03-06T01:14:41Z")

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.mistaken post.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/974 "2024-03-06T01:42:44Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> I hadn’t noticed. And I certainly don’t think the vast majority of wobbly or undecided voters have either, unless listening to a pundit make an opinion about it.

That’s the point. We didn’t notice Biden. Biden and his team let Trump dominate the tone of the campaign for a whole year. We didn’t notice Biden because he wasn’t doing press conferences, campaign rallies, and things like that. They ceded that ground and the air space to Trump and the Trump favoring press. There’s still plenty of time to recover, but I think the strategy of doing so, if that’s what it was, was a bad one.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/975 "2024-03-06T01:55:57Z")

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Others have responded in ways I agree with but to the public appearances angle I will add YES. Get out in public and do things that allow him to engage with people, show his wit and project that while he is in fact old he is strong.

This is one of the things many independents are saying in interviews about DJT - they like him because he projects strength. You and I may see that this is a stupid reason to vote for the idiot but Biden should be doing all he can to show that he is mentally and physically strong for an old guy. More so than his opponent.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/976 "2024-03-06T02:07:56Z")

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Campaign rallies in 2023?! Trump was indeed doing that, but wasn’t he widely mocked for it?

And how good would a sitting president look stumping all over instead of, say, fighting inflation or dealing with wars involving nuclear superpowers?

You may be right, but I don’t find the conclusion as stunningly obvious as you seem to, unless the administration is just dumb (or else, god forbid, he really IS senile, which a deliberate shunning of the spotlight would imply).

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/977 "2024-03-06T12:11:54Z")

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Minor curiosity-Biden did not win American Samoa. Jason Palmer did instead, even though he lives in Baltimore. He looks like an actor dressed up for SNL to me.

> **[Who is Jason Palmer? Surprise defeat for Biden in American Samoa](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68487133)**
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> His party's voters in the US territory of American Samoa chose a Baltimore businessman ahead of the US president.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/978 "2024-03-06T14:35:16Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Minor curiosity-Biden did not win American Samoa.

Where are the mainstream media critics attacking CNN for reporting something trivial that makes Joe Biden look bad?

This is partly the fault of Democratic Party.

American Samoa gets 6 delegates for 91 voters - about 15 per voter, and 1 for each 7,500 residents.

Pennsylvania gets 185 delegates for roughly a million votes – maybe 5,400 per voter, and 1 for each 70,000 residents.

Talk about gerrymandering.

Different formulas can be defended, but not this one. If AS had a fractional delegate, it wouldn’t be grouped with the somewhat more significant loss the other guy experienced in Vermont.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/979 "2024-03-06T14:42:51Z")

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Maybe the Biden campaign, instead of trying to portray strength and coolness, should just admit that he’s old? “Biden: America’s Elder.” Then they could slide straight into his strengths of experience, accomplishments. “Joe knows how to govern — he’s been doing it for 50 years.”

He _is_ old and it _is_ a strength. Why pretend?

Maybe also more covertly signal that succession would go smoothly in the event of need.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/980 "2024-03-06T16:47:22Z")

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That all makes sense to me.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/981 "2024-03-06T18:40:06Z")

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Exactly what I think as well.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/982 "2024-03-06T18:44:25Z")

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I had also thought of Reagan’s famed quip. Might work.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/983 "2024-03-06T18:46:54Z")

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Just to put this a little in perspective, Palmer beat Biden 51 to 40. That wasn’t 51% to 40% it was 51 **votes** to 40 **votes**.

This could be one guy who happens to have a personal connection to Palmer convincing 51 or his friends and acquaintances to vote for him. In other words, an interesting anecdote but not actually representative of anything substantial.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/984 "2024-03-06T18:52:37Z")

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Yabbut that’s 56%!

That’s a sign, I tells ya! A sign of what, I have no clue

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/985 "2024-03-06T18:54:45Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Just to put this a little in perspective,

Channeling my inner MAGAT,  
‘Just to put this in correct perspective why is Samoa, a foreign and unAmerican country, allowed to vote in our elections? Just another example of how the DemonRats cheat at elections!’

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/986 "2024-03-06T19:06:30Z")

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It’s the day for dropping out – Dean Phillips has ended his bid for the Democratic nomination.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/987 "2024-03-06T19:12:58Z")

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Now the Phillips/Haley ticket can start gaining steam!

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/988 "2024-03-06T19:24:24Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Phillips/Haley ticket

It’d be hilarious if they joined up for a public debate tour, touted as “This is what the Presidential race _could_ have sounded like!” I’m sure it’d be a big hit on the college circuit.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/989 "2024-03-06T19:26:26Z")

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Jason Palmer is still in the running.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/990 "2024-03-06T19:29:07Z")

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Fine, we’ll put him in the gimp suit, then.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/991 "2024-03-06T19:34:46Z")

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Hill article: “Democrats Ready to Hit Panic Button”

[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4510890-democrats-ready-to-hit-panic-button-in-trump-biden-race/](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4510890-democrats-ready-to-hit-panic-button-in-trump-biden-race/)

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