# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1092 "2024-03-14T16:18:17Z")

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I am not sure I’m going to vote this year. I’m in Ohio, which will probably go red.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1093 "2024-03-14T16:29:47Z")

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Very likely, alas, but I sure hope you’ll still vote! There are lots of important down-ticket races, including Sen. Sherrod Brown’s reelection campaign (you don’t want the US Senate going red, do you?) and for three Supreme Court seats

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**Author:** ![knavette57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knavette57/32/3871_2.png) [@knavette57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knavette57)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1094 "2024-03-14T16:43:46Z")

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I am in MO, same problem. But we have important county and school board races here, and I know who the scoundrels are, and they need voted out, so I must vote. I do not know about Ohio, but I am guessing it is the same. Of course, I will vote for Biden, and for any and all democrats. All the Repubs here are election deniers, Trumpers, etc., and I want them gone.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1095 "2024-03-14T17:10:41Z")

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He’s not too old now.

He will be too old at some point.

When will that point be?

If I were confident that that point was “after January of 2029,” I wouldn’t worry about it. If the Democrats would ADDRESS this issue, and note their contingency plans, I wouldn’t worry about it. Right now, the plan seems to be “he’ll be fine,” followed by “if he’s not, maybe Harris something something.”

Still, I’d vote for him even if I thought he was currently too old, because the alternative is unthinkable.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1096 "2024-03-14T17:15:32Z")

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A recent poll: A lot of American voters still hate the Biden-Trump rematch, but Republicans feel more upbeat about it because they think Trump has good chances of winning.

> **[Yahoo News/YouGov poll: 'Dread' tops list of Americans' feelings about 2024...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/yahoo-newsyougov-poll-dread-tops-list-of-americans-feelings-about-2024-election--but-optimism-is-growing-202816812.html)**
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> A majority of Americans (53%) chose at least one of the negative feelings (dread, exhaustion or depression), while 40% picked at least one of the positive feelings (optimism, excitement or delight).

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1097 "2024-03-14T17:30:08Z")

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> [@knavette57](#):
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> Of course, I will vote for Biden, and for any and all democrats. All the Repubs here are election deniers, Trumpers, etc., and I want them gone.

And besides, that, even in solid Red states, you need to send a message that you don’t support Trump, and that you exist. Biden beat Trump by millions of votes last time, and the MAGAts still tried to deny that people like you existed. Biden needs to win by even more votes this time. This is the only way there’s any chance at all of getting the message across to the MAGAts.

Vote every chance you get!

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1098 "2024-03-14T17:33:52Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> If I were confident that that point was “after January of 2029,” I wouldn’t worry about it. If the Democrats would ADDRESS this issue, and note their contingency plans, I wouldn’t worry about it. Right now, the plan seems to be “he’ll be fine,” followed by “if he’s not, maybe Harris something something.”

Well, that after all is the whole point of a Vice President.

The Democrats don’t have to “have a plan” for this, because the US government, as an institution, has the plan. And it’s a plan that has actually worked out in the past. So long as the plan is entrusted to people who aren’t dedicated to disrupting the normal actions of government, there’s no reason to think it won’t work out the next time, whenever that might be.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1099 "2024-03-14T17:42:46Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Vote every chance you get!

Vote Blue over Q, and take someone with you! (I’m borrowing this, didn’t create it).

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1100 "2024-03-15T10:45:42Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I am not sure I’m going to vote this year. I’m in Ohio, which will probably go red.

So it will “probably” go red and your response to this news is help ensure it goes red by not voting for the blue that you prefer?

That seems like a bad plan.

Plus of course as others have said, all the down-ticket races that are more competitive.

There is _nothing_ that is ever made better by not voting.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1101 "2024-03-15T12:06:57Z")

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The Senate voted to confirm the new Ambassador to Haiti. I’m sharing this because I’m mildly surprised that Republicans voted on it at all. Why not block it or at least kick up a fuss and give Biden another foreign policy headache to deal with during election season?

> **[Senate confirms Dennis Hankins as ambassador to Haiti](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/senate-confirms-dennis-hankins-ambassador-haiti-rcna143499)**
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> Hankins steps into the post just days after Haiti’s Prime Minister Ariel Henry announced his resignation plans and as violent gangs sweep through much of the capital, Port-au-Prince.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1102 "2024-03-15T13:25:38Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Why not block it or at least kick up a fuss and give Biden another foreign policy headache to deal with during election season?

If Americans need to evacuated from Haiti during this unrest, the lack of an ambassador there (and Senate Republicans) can be blamed for any delay or mishap.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1103 "2024-03-15T13:29:35Z")

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That’s my thought as well. It would be their own Afghanistan, so to speak.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1104 "2024-03-15T13:40:57Z")

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I think you mean their own Benghazi. But same idea in any case.

Although they’ve certainly proven that regardless of the issue or any reality about it, they can construct a narrative that a) makes them look like the good guys, and b) is widely believed by their brainwashed hordes.

So any actual concern about what might happen in Haiti with or without an ambassador really doesn’t, or at least need not, enter their political calculus.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1105 "2024-03-18T11:42:39Z")

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Biden’s apparently not happy with the lack of public knowledge of his record. Which is fine-let him be mad. I’d rather “angry” than “apathy”.

> **[Behind the scenes, Biden has grown angry and anxious about re-election effort](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-anger-rcna143729)**
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> Biden locked up the Democratic nomination last week, but looking ahead to the general election, anxiety has seemed to increase.

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**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1106 "2024-03-18T12:27:17Z")

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Joe Biden has advisors. The Israel thing has to be resolved in a month or two. Otherwise he will lose at least one state.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1107 "2024-03-18T13:40:22Z")

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> [@TeroSunbear](#):
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> Otherwise he will lose at least one state.

Were you thinking he’d win all 50 states otherwise? 😜

Sorry, I know you meant he’ll lose one state _that he otherwise should win_. I just couldn’t help myself. #MondaySnark

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1108 "2024-03-18T15:37:15Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Biden’s apparently not happy with the lack of public knowledge of his record. Which is fine-let him be mad. I’d rather “angry” than “apathy”.

It’s started to change, but as I’ve already mentioned, the “keep Biden locked away and as quiet as possible” strategy of 2023 was terrible. It’s nice to see that at least Biden recognizes it was a bad strategy. If he loses, I think this will have as much to do with it as the war in the Middle East, Ukraine, immigration, or any other issue of the day.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1109 "2024-03-18T17:09:54Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> It’s started to change, but as I’ve already mentioned, the “keep Biden locked away and as quiet as possible” strategy of 2023 was terrible. It’s nice to see that at least Biden recognizes it was a bad strategy. I

Or as other people know it, the “Biden focuses on doing his day job rather than campaigning” strategy.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1110 "2024-03-18T20:27:07Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Were you thinking he’d win all 50 states otherwise?

He sure the hell should. It still blows my mind that a _single human being_ could vote for Trump – let alone enough humans to win an entire freakin’ state.

I mean this sincerely. It _blows me away_.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1111 "2024-03-18T20:37:44Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> He sure the hell should. It still blows my mind that a _single human being_ could vote for Trump – let alone enough humans to win an entire freakin’ state.

Tell me about it. When he emerged as the GOP frontrunner in 2016, I initially thought Clinton would win in the biggest landslide since Reagan-Mondale.

And he’s only gotten more loathsome since then.

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