# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1433 "2024-06-06T22:11:52Z")
I think “own up to your weaknesses” is rarely a good communications strategy. “I sometimes forget the names of foreign leaders, but I didn’t forget my oath to the Constitution” may seem like a good quip but guess what part of that Republicans are going to run in attack ads. That’s not to say a candidate can’t jujitsu a weakness, they just have to be cleverer about it. Reagan’s “I won’t use my opponent’s youth and inexperience against him” was a great line for defusing the age issue, without Reagan every saying that he was old. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1434 "2024-06-13T22:45:29Z")
The TikTok ban was a bigger deal among some voters than thought; two-thirds say it made them less likely to vote for Biden. > **[Gen Z influencers who supported Biden in 2020 turn against him](https://www.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-influencers-supported-biden-133040062.html)** > > The Gaza war, lack of progress on climate change and a potential TikTok ban are spawning anti-Biden content — even among former supporters. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1435 "2024-06-14T18:25:44Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > The TikTok ban was a bigger deal among some voters than thought; two-thirds say it made them less likely to vote for Biden. The GOP congress did that, not Biden. And i will bet a shit-ton of that is Chinese astroturf. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1436 "2024-06-14T18:31:45Z")
But Biden said he’d sign the bill if it came to him, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1437 "2024-06-14T19:25:36Z")
The Republican House, Democratic Senate and Democratic President all signed off on the bill that will force the Chinese owners of TikTok to sell the platform or have it banned. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1438 "2024-06-14T20:12:30Z")
Yes, but that is not just Bidens fault. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1439 "2024-06-14T20:40:34Z")
Sure, it’s not just Biden’s fault, but it’s not true that, “the GOP Congress did that, not Biden.” He signed the bill into law. That said, I rather doubt that outraging self-appointed Gen Z influencers (I laughed out loud at the one quoted in the article as saying, “Gen Z put Biden in office with our voices and with our platforms”) is going to have any significant impact on the election. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1440 "2024-06-15T09:57:59Z")
I don’t know that Biden can afford to lose any votes, which puts him in a very difficult situation. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1441 "2024-06-15T15:25:24Z")
But Trump can chase RINOs out of hs party with impunity? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1442 "2024-06-15T16:10:58Z")
Biden has to worry about people who would otherwise be in his camp _actually not voting for him_ just because he’s not who/what they really wanted or because they’ve become mildly inconvenienced or disturbed by what happens on his watch. Meanwhile The Other Guy’s voters as far as we can tell will show up and vote for him even if it kills them. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1443 "2024-06-15T16:11:12Z")
Boohoo! Biden threatened to take TikTok away! Without TikTok life is meaningless! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1444 "2024-06-15T16:42:44Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > But Trump can chase RINOs out of hs party with impunity? RINOs? He’s telling his own MAGAts he doesn’t need their votes. [https://video.twimg.com/amplify\_video/1801766640956411904/vid/avc1/480x270/c99L6OiKV\_Ic\_qg\_.mp4?tag=14](https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1801766640956411904/vid/avc1/480x270/c99L6OiKV_Ic_qg_.mp4?tag=14) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1445 "2024-06-16T00:11:53Z")
Well, they should certainly take him at his word. They do for everything else that comes out of his piehole. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1446 "2024-06-17T04:40:52Z")
There are some MAGA conspiracy theorists on Xwitter who are saying that Biden won’t be the nominee. They’re predicting that he’ll be replaced at the convention. Most are saying that it’ll be either Gavin Newsome or Michelle Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1447 "2024-06-17T10:20:49Z")
I can see it now. They bring out Penn & Teller and a big curtain, then pull it in front of him. Then, abracadabra-Obama! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1448 "2024-06-17T13:45:57Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > MAGA conspiracy theorists on Since the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee, I’m not seeing much of a conspiracy needed here. “Convention chooses a nominee” is hardly a surprise outcome. Idjits. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1449 "2024-06-17T15:15:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Since the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee, I’m not seeing much of a conspiracy needed here. I think it’s the “Michelle Obama” part that puts it over the top. They’ve been obsessing for years over her, and how the Democrats are secretly planning some kind of Obama Dynasty built around her, even though there’s literally nothing to suggest that she, or anyone else in the party, is interested in any such thing. But they have so much invested in hating the “Obama” name that they just can’t let it go. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1450 "2024-06-17T15:18:29Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Since the purpose of a convention is to choose a nominee, I’m not seeing much of a conspiracy needed here. “Convention chooses a nominee” is hardly a surprise outcome. Absent his death or unexpectedly declaring he will not accept the nomination, it would be very surprising if the Democratic convention nominated someone besides Joe Biden. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1451 "2024-06-17T18:03:32Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But they have so much invested in hating the “Obama” name that they just can’t let it go Yeah, this. If your only schtick is playing to the cheap seats for applause, _never_ quit beating any particular dead horse until the audience quits cheering when you do. See also “woke”, although that one more current than “Obama”. “COVID” still works in a pinch for them. We haven’t heard much about “Whitewater” in awhile; I guess the audience finally moved on over that one. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1452 "2024-06-17T18:25:00Z")
Michelle Obama also made it very, _very_ clear in her memoirs that she has absolutely no interest in ever running for office. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=73)