# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1453 "2024-06-17T18:39:15Z")
The person least suited to be President is the one who really, really wants the job.   (I think there might be a slight defect in our system) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1454 "2024-06-17T20:21:27Z")
It isn’t just MAGAts who have wild fantasies about Michelle Obama running, there are plenty of folks on the left who have suggested something similar. And that includes multiple left leaning posters on these boards. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1455 "2024-06-18T02:20:53Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The person least suited to be President is the one who really, really wants the job. > >   > > (I think there might be a slight defect in our system) I never bought this dictum. Lincoln, TR, FDR and JFK, among others, were all very ambitious, and did quite well in office IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1456 "2024-06-18T02:23:57Z")
And if that phrase _is_ true, it’s a defect of human nature, not just our system, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1457 "2024-06-18T11:08:32Z")
I took @eschereal’s comment to be aimed mostly at the specific situation here in 2024, although that aphorism has been around for decades, if not centuries in one form or another. As to @Love_Rhombus, I’ll suggest that you’re right that it is a unhelpful feature of human nature. But since human nature is fixed, and social / political systems are mutable and designable to at least some degree, that suggests to me that the “defect” is consciously _designing_ a system with a great susceptibility to the features of its users. There ~~may~~ will always be some residual susceptibility. But that can, and should, be designed around to the degree possible. It is not steel’s “fault” that it is homogenous and strong, nor wood’s “fault” that it’s much less homogenous and much less strong. But one would be wise to know which material is to be used before specifying the size of the beam meant to hold up the roof. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1458 "2024-06-18T11:47:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I never bought this dictum. Lincoln, TR, FDR and JFK, among others, were all very ambitious, and did quite well in office IMHO. Politics is maybe the only area of human endeavor where we actively despise those who seek to advance in their field. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1459 "2024-06-18T12:26:25Z")
Organized crime? I agree it’s a fine distinction. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1460 "2024-06-18T16:29:42Z")
      _Every cop is a criminal and all the sinners, saints_ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1461 "2024-06-18T16:40:10Z")
Remember who was said to be offering that opinion! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1462 "2024-06-18T16:52:45Z")
Hey, I am not unsympathetic. That being never killed anyone, unlike its foe. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1463 "2024-06-19T14:15:59Z")
The documentary _Angel Heart_ suggests otherwise. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1464 "2024-06-19T15:53:08Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > And that includes multiple left leaning posters on these boards. Name two. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1465 "2024-06-20T03:15:53Z")
[Here is a poster suggesting she would be their pick for POTUS.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-you-pick-to-be-president/981502/35) [This post shows two people suggesting she should be on the ticket as Biden’s VEEP.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/826) I realize these may not be as specific as you are looking for but my point is it isn’t just people on the right saying it could/should happen. The story told by those on the right is more about the idea Biden is senile and will bow out. The folks on this board are engaging in wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1466 "2024-06-20T12:21:44Z")
Bob Casey, for one, has recently changed his position. I think it will work for him. but we will see. Perhaps Biden should have a meeting of religious leaders and Democrats (and even a few Republicans) who are pro-choice? > **[Pa.’s Sen. Bob Casey surprises some with his abortion-rights stance](https://www.pennlive.com/politics/2024/06/pas-sen-bob-casey-surprises-some-with-his-abortion-rights-stance.html?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral)** > > The senator, who once called himself a “pro-life Democrat,” accuses his Republican challenger of wanting to “make abortion illegal even in cases of rape and incest.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1467 "2024-06-20T14:46:17Z")
The NYT reporting today about how Biden’s support among women is shrinking and how this spells doom and gloom for the Democrats. /s [Here’s the full article as a gift link so no paywall.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/20/us/elections/biden-trump-women-men.html?unlocked_article_code=1.1E0.Pe_6.6cRxSAygyu1Z&smid=url-share) > Mr. Biden’s drop in support has been particularly pronounced among Black and Hispanic women, according to a [new set of polls](https://www.kff.org/2024-survey-of-women-voters-dashboard/?entry=national-the-mood-of-the-election) focused on women across the country and in Arizona and Michigan from KFF, a nonprofit organization that focuses on health care research. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1468 "2024-06-20T14:53:30Z")
Ugh ugh ugh. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1469 "2024-06-20T18:22:18Z")
Debate in a week. Trump gets the final word. My guess: Election 2020 and 2024 were stolen! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1470 "2024-06-20T18:31:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1471 "2024-06-20T22:19:50Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > My guess: Election 2020 and 2024 were stolen! My guess: Corrupt Biden crime family witch hunt biased judges I will get my revenge! ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1472 "2024-06-21T01:40:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > My guess: Corrupt Biden crime family witch hunt biased judges I will get my revenge! Could be. But my guess is he’ll remember that he promised Susie Wiles to end with something that polls well — maybe drilling for cheap oil vs. Biden allegedly forcing you to drive an electric car. Biden’s in trouble and, right now I don’t see how he can get out of it. I’m overhearing, from the TV in the next room, ads saying that Trump was found to be a sexual assaulter and 34x felon. We’ll see how that works. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=74)