# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1473 "2024-06-21T01:42:32Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > That being never killed anyone, unlike its foe. What about the Czar and his ministers? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1474 "2024-06-21T02:08:51Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > maybe drilling for cheap oil vs. Biden allegedly forcing you to drive an electric car. We’ll see how ketamine addicted whack-a-doodle billionaire Musk works with that. Battle of the Idiots! ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1475 "2024-06-21T02:25:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > We’ll see how ketamine addicted whack-a-doodle billionaire Musk works with that. Battle of the Idiots! Trump has already thrown Tesla under the bus: [Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump has made bashing EVs a cornerstone of his campaign, effectively turning them into culture war fodder in an election year.](https://wapo.st/3xpFlze) Biden is associated with combatting global warming. This polls well until the moment that voters see the least bit of sacrifice being asked for, [as explained here.](https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/greenlash-is-here) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1476 "2024-06-21T03:23:32Z")
Quite illuminating link - thanks (and interesting similarities with political trends in Europe). A paragraph from the link: “Voters of course _hate_ being told what car they must drive, how they must heat their homes, cook their food, etc. And they really, really hate high prices. Rather than fighting climate change, their strong preference is for _cheap_ , reliable, abundant energy. No wonder that, when asked whether they would support [paying something extra] on their monthly utility bill to combat climate change, working-class voters opposed even paying an extra _one_ dollar. And if the toll was raised to $10, these voters were opposed by a massive 38 points.” It goes on to point out how the Biden administration has been “cluelessly doubling down.” I wish people thought differently than they do, but given that they do, I’m afraid there’s some hard truth this. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1477 "2024-06-21T13:55:54Z")
The Q2 campaign fundraising reports are out, and it’s not great news for Biden. Trump reversed Biden’s campaign cash lead with an enormous haul during the quarter, particularly spiking after his conviction in NY. Trump’s campaign and the RNC combined reported just over $170 million cash on hand while Biden and the DNC reported $157 million. Now part of the reason for that is that Biden has been spending much more heavily than Trump on early campaign infrastructure, an investment that will hopefully pay off in November. But Trump will have plenty of cash to spend this summer to ramp up his operations and advertising. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1478 "2024-06-21T14:07:11Z")
… or spend on his legal bills. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1479 "2024-06-21T15:00:44Z")
I think it’s a bit of Democratic self-soothing to think that Trump’s legal bills are going to significantly eat up his campaign cash. He’s going to have an enormous pot of money for both his legal expenses and campaign activities. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1480 "2024-06-21T16:54:32Z")
Option 2:“If you don’t elect me, that will be the end of our great nation.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1481 "2024-06-21T16:54:58Z")
An enormous pot of money… which is entirely under the control of the Trump family and their closest allies. So what do you think they will spend it on? The best political strategists and organizers available? Or businesses owned by the Trump family and their closest allies? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1482 "2024-06-21T19:16:12Z")
Also, they will be sucking up all the funds for all the _other_ Republican candidates. So there may be a downticket effect. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1483 "2024-06-21T19:24:09Z")
That is what I predicted- the RNC is now only for trump- this will hurt smaller downticket elections for the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1484 "2024-06-21T19:51:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Also, they will be sucking up all the funds for all the _other_ Republican candidates. So there may be a downticket effect. Nah, this helps down ballot Republicans. The National Republican Congressional Committee also saw a spike in its fundraising after the Trump verdict and outraised its Democratic counterpart for the first time this cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1485 "2024-06-21T21:48:05Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > The National Republican Congressional Committee also saw a spike in its fundraising I believe Trump has already decreed that they are to send him a proportion of their fundraising. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1486 "2024-06-21T21:59:10Z")
Don’t know if this is the right place to put this, but I have to put it somewhere. I accidentally stumbled across a video of interviews with the “Christian” faction of MAGA world. I couldn’t stand to watch more than a few minutes of this appalling irrationality, but the recurring theme was that Trump was essential for ridding America of the evil that pervades it. The one that especially struck me was the talk with an old biddy wearing a MAGA hat. The interviewer asked the old biddy what she meant by this “evil”, but she demurred, saying “Christians don’t talk about such things”. But the interviewer persisted, saying that he just didn’t understand what she was saying (and neither did I). She finally blurted out “Biden! That’s the evil! There, I’ve said it!”. At which point she ran away from the interview. I propose a new national motto: “America: a nation completely incapable of governing itself.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1487 "2024-06-22T01:03:17Z")
Hmm, I still prefer “E Pluribus Unum.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1488 "2024-06-22T16:10:49Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > The Q2 campaign fundraising reports are out… Can we get a cite on these reports? Because I would like to note that, as I type this, **8 days remain _in_ Q2** , so I’m frankly flabbergasted that Q2 fundraising totals are being published by the FEC given that we are still in Q2. Doing some search, the biggest news I’m seeing about Q2 fundraising reports is an article from the NYTimes, which effectively tracks your argument, flurb. And their sourcing for this data? Let’s look… [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53808548573_123b9f1a89_b.jpg "NYTQ2") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/53808548573/) You know, if I want to keep my reputation as the Paper of Record, perhaps I should not just blindly accept the wording of a man and his organization which have a genuinely traceable 50-year record of lying to me. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1489 "2024-06-22T16:28:44Z")
I’m embarrassed – you’re entirely correct. The reporting is based on monthly filings with the FEC which were due June 20. So more than just the campaigns’ say-so (since they have to do have to provide some documentation), but not a quarterly report. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1490 "2024-06-22T16:30:34Z")
Naw, no big deal, and I apologize if I was harsh. My tone was towards the NYT, not you, my friend. However, this is as good as time as any to donate more money… done. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1491 "2024-06-23T10:40:09Z")
This either means the Trump campaign is feeling pretty confident, in which case Biden should be concerned, or they’re idiots, in which case…maybe still be a little concerned? > **[Trump campaign bets big on Minnesota, Virginia with new field offices](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-to-open-new-field-offices-minnesota-virginia/)** > > A new memo obtained exclusively by CBS News shows how the Trump campaign is trying to expand the 2024 map. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1492 "2024-06-23T10:42:13Z")
It’s probably bullshit. “Leaked campaign memos” are the way campaigns signal various things to the media without direct attribution. So for whatever reason, the Trump campaign wants the media to report that they’re focusing on MN and VA; who knows whether this is anything but a messaging strategy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=75)