# President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384 "2021-11-15T14:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/141 "2023-07-24T15:12:01Z")
Yes, the Wiki article mentions him. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/142 "2023-07-24T18:14:44Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Obviously 'WAAAAAAAY too soon to read too much into these numbers, but they are encouraging. What’s more indicative the year before, special elections or polls? I’m thinking that, at least this cycle, it’s polls, because you’ve never had such well known general election favorites candidates, with opinions locked in, as Biden and Trump. So it isn’t way too soon. And while the Democrats are polling [well in Wisconsin](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_biden-7398.html), nationally, and in my state, it is worrisome. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/143 "2023-07-24T19:53:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Yeah, No Labels are not remotely “centrist”; they’re a stealth right-wing organization deliberately acting as a spoiler for the Democrats via unsubtle bothsidesism. Yep. It worked in 2016, with quite a few unsatisfied liberals, indys and even Dems voting third party. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/144 "2023-07-25T13:42:36Z")
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy says Republicans will soon have enough info to start a Biden impeachment inquiry. From Fox News: “McCarthy cited the FBI 1023 form wherein a confidential human source told the bureau that Biden was paid $5 million by a Burisma executive while he was vice president and while Hunter was on the board.” Uh-oh. When they start citing _human_ sources you know Joe is in trouble.\* \*a previous non-human source reportedly was Biden’s dog Major, who is now in witness protection. His replacement, Commander, has been implicated in ["a shocking spate of incidents](https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/biden-dog-commander-bit-or-threatened-10-people-sent-one-to-hospital/) including payouts of dog biscuits and chicken jerky from unnamed eastern European business interests. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/145 "2023-07-25T17:29:24Z")
Bad dog! _Bad_ dog! In other news: > **[President Biden won’t acknowledge his youngest granddaughter. It turns off...](https://www.aol.com/president-biden-won-t-acknowledge-020119178.html)** > > President Biden's decision not to recognize a grandchild his son Hunter fathered out of wedlock has complicated his public image as a family man. The second photo caption must be wrong; Beau Biden died in 2015. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/146 "2023-07-25T17:46:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Beau Biden died in 2015. He did but Beau Biden is alive and well and just turned 3. (Hunter has a young son that was named after his late brother, that little boy is in the photo.) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/147 "2023-07-25T17:49:17Z")
Ah, thanks, didn’t know that. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/148 "2023-07-26T00:32:43Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [SeamusMuadhen Trock posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seamusmuadhen-trock-posts/987599/11) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/149 "2023-07-25T21:32:39Z")
Watch him try! ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/150 "2023-07-28T03:17:26Z")
I did not vote for Biden in the 2020 primary and I was disappointed when he got the nomination. But I’ve been very happy with him as president. I think he has a steady hand, and I think he’s been very good at quietly maneuvering to always come out of partisan conflicts with the upper hand. I thought the hoopla about Afghanistan was silly. I believe quite firmly that there was no way that would have happened without some chaos, and he was wise to do it early. I think his low poll numbers are due to voters’ overall frustration with government, but I feel confident that when it comes time to actually vote, he will be rewarded for his accomplishments with a second term. I certainly don’t think the country will decide they want Trump back. I also think that people who are convinced that his cognitive abilities are impaired just because he is old and talks funny are mistaken. Every substantive move he’s made during his presidency indicates that he is of sound mind. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/151 "2023-07-28T22:30:38Z")
> [@Kyomara](#): > > I thought the hoopla about Afghanistan was silly. I believe quite firmly that there was no way that would have happened without some chaos, and he was wise to do it early. Especially as trump started it, and stopping it would have meant even more chaos. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/152 "2023-07-30T19:48:20Z")
> [@Kyomara](#): > > I also think that people who are convinced that his cognitive abilities are impaired just because he is old and talks funny are mistaken. ISTR that he has had periodic fights with English just about his whole life. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/153 "2023-07-30T19:53:41Z")
He stutters, which, as you know, is no reflection of cognitive ability. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/154 "2023-07-31T00:03:24Z")
Well, I mean, in the past he said some rather unusual things that some folks called silly or goofy or gaffes. But he has always been and is coherent and able to manage a vocabulary that is something on the order of ten times the breadth of Individual-ONE’s apparent lexical range. And he never uses a word incorrectly, TBMK. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/155 "2023-07-31T00:31:54Z")
He seems in command of numerous complex topics. To me, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/156 "2023-08-01T13:24:36Z")
Today’s New York Times features national poll results that show Biden and Trump neck-and-neck, were they the candidates and the election were now. Among the 14% who refused to pick either one, a majority show some appreciation for Biden, but they also lean moderately conservative. Kamala Harris being a heartbeat away — and the heart in question belonging to an octogenarian— were the weakest points for Biden. One of the reader comments summed it up well: “The election is a long way off. I accept Biden as the Dem nominee, but if Trump goes down the tubes, and the Repubs put up a Hurd or Haley, I would seriously consider one of them. I’m officially an Independent. It would be national suicide to vote for Trump, and Biden is too old - yes, yes, yes, he is! - and unacceptable to be left with Harris. No need to keep promoting her via media interviews, etc. She’s not presidential material, and she was Biden’s biggest mistake (among many).” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/157 "2023-08-01T14:00:37Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > epubs put up a Hurd or Haley, Haley I can squint and maybe see as a viable candidate in Trump’s absence, but _Hurd_? It’s not as if the Pubs were putting up a strong B-team in the event Donald isn’t around, but him? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/158 "2023-08-01T18:30:04Z")
Obama, LBJ and Green Lantern: a funny but serious article on why we may expect too much from the Presidency. And see what the American Political Science Association asked for in 1950 - yeesh! > **[The Green Lantern Theory of the Presidency](https://www.vox.com/2014/5/20/5732208/the-green-lantern-theory-of-the-presidency-explained)** > > A lot of political pundits seem to believe the president can do whatever he wants through sheer force of will. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/159 "2023-08-01T18:36:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Obama, LBJ and Green Lantern: a funny but serious article on why we may expect too much from the Presidency. And see what the American Political Science Association asked for in 1950 - yeesh! > > [The Green Lantern Theory of the Presidency, explained - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2014/5/20/5732208/the-green-lantern-theory-of-the-presidency-explained) You realize that article’s from 2014, right? Not that it isn’t true, but after the last few years it reads like something from an entirely different era. Today, I’m a lot more worried about what a president _can_ accomplish than what one can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/160 "2023-08-01T19:07:25Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Today, I’m a lot more worried about what a president _can_ accomplish than what one can’t. But that’s kind of the point, if you read the last part of the article. He makes the point that Obama wasn’t using a lot of the things the President does control to implement his policies. But those are exactly the powers that Trump et al. will use to implement their policies. Putting people into positions of authority over the various government departments, who will not hesitate to make sweeping changes in exactly the way Trump wants them made, and tell anyone who objects to sue them. And if Trump somehow does get elected again, it’s a good bet that the GOP will _also_ sweep the Congressional elections, so he’ll have that compliant Congress to work with, on top of that executive power. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384.md?page=9)