The quote was:
Racism, we are not cured of it. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say n---- in public. That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not.
The quote was:
Racism, we are not cured of it. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say n---- in public. That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not.
Works fine in context.
I don’t picture your average racist understanding the subtlety of the context, though.
I think pretty much all non-Americans find it quite puzzling that many Americans say “N-word” instead of “nigger”. It is utterly silly. Calling someone a nigger or referring to blacks as niggers is despicable*. Discussing the word “nigger” or the way it is employed is fine. It is not the fucking tetragrammaton. Is the use-mention distinction really beyond the intellectual reach of most Americans? Or is it something else?
Watching Americans struggle to say “black” in Spanish must be fun.
*With exceptions for works such as movies set in 50s US South where that would be appropriate to the context.
Obama is showing every future President how to roll through your lame-duck years.
I clutched my pearls.
Fox is probably just jealous they don’t get to use it
It’s the “heck” for the 21st century.
I imagine some might have issues with the interpretive dance version.
Sure. They probably think it should be polite to say nigger in public, and they’re pissed that they get in trouble for it. “Dammit, things were so much easier when we could just say whatever the heck we wanted!”
Leaving aside whether Maron is an asshole (I suspect he’d be the first to admit he is, or at least used to be), after Obama appeared on Between Two Ferns, there’s really nowhere to go but up.
I’m looking forward to when Obama leaves office so he can appear on Getting Doug with High without catching too much flak.
Or the spoken version of the quote on television versus it printed out which is what I obviously meant. :dubious:
Reported.
I’ve never heard my dad use that word - he prefers to act clever and say “Canadians” (really) (like, seriously) - but I’m wondering if his right-wing radio will convince him to start using it now “because the President said it!”
He’s so provocative, my dad.
I am quoting this post again only because it can’t be quoted often enough.
I’m fine with it and in fact would love to see him totally go in on the subject of race (I’ve always felt this way) but understand why he can’t quite do that at the moment.
If anything, I admire his restraint not only now but for the last couple of years, especially.
I’ve heard people call them “Mondays”.
Because nobody likes Mondays.
Got a question for you, as I’m genuinely curious. Have you ever told your dad you don’t find it clever or funny (unless you do) for him to refer to black Americans that way? Ever otherwise attempted to talk to him about “his right-wing radio” habits as pertains to the issue of race?
Since he’s calling black people Canadians I presume he’s not himself black, and theoretically he could be any other ethnicity, but I’ll just go out on a limb and presume he’s white. The reluctance of non-bigoted white people to openly discuss racism and to challenge and push back against it every time they encounter it, including within their own family, is a huge part of the problem.
The kid that murdered the 9 people in Charleston has friends who say sure he made racist “jokes” but “we didn’t take it seriously.” That’s the extreme end of the “it’s too uncomfortable to talk about it or get involved” spectrum on which so many white people dwell.
Well at last he didn’t say the “e” word!
Yep. Every time, with his homophobia too. He just goes quiet or says “it’s just a joke” or brushes it off.
It’s a never-ending battle with people who refuse to learn or refuse to be nicer. And usually their defense is to try to make me feel bad somehow.
My parents are victims, you see. Victims of white flight. They used to live in Whitetown and then they somehow were displaced by black people who…moved in down the street?
It’s disgusting and heartbreaking and relentless, and I am not equipped to deal with it in any meaningful way, other than to be that bitch who yells at her dad every time he expresses an opinion
Let’s all agree that it’s just as well that his rage translator was off that day.
Good on you for calling out the bigotry and I hope you continue to do so. I get your sarcasm (I think?) about your parents being “victims” and that this is maybe how they perceive themselves, but the thing is, they probably “displaced” themselves. Meaning they didn’t have to move just because black people moved in down the street.
The way I see it, their own bigotry, manifested by the apparent refusal to live on the same street as black people, is what “displaced” them. So if they’re victims, they’re victims of their own ignorance and bigotry. I get that not everyone is receptive to logic of this kind, though, believe me I do. :rolleyes: