# President Obama warns of progressive "purity" and "circular firing squads"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 17, 2019, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662 "2019-04-17T06:04:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/321 "2019-07-30T22:27:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Man, just two posts up I refuted that. .\*

I was just kidding but I did snip out the word “our” thus sidestepped your America centric refutation. 😉

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/322 "2019-07-30T22:45:15Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> If his version of it can’t be known for sure, then neither can yours.

Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/323 "2019-07-30T23:17:25Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> At one point in our history slavery was supported by the majority too. .

Cite? What time after the signing of the constitution was slavery supported by the majority?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/324 "2019-07-30T23:19:27Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I was just kidding but I did snip out the word “our” thus sidestepped your America centric refutation. 😉

It’s a bad meme that’s been going around.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/325 "2019-07-31T00:03:14Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Cite? What time after the signing of the constitution was slavery supported by the majority?

In his defense, he’s probably ignoring black people’s opinions on slavery at the time. Oh wait, that’s not a defense.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/326 "2019-07-31T01:24:20Z")

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You guys are shifting the goalposts. This isn’t about whether someone with a grievous injury or life-threatening illness is turned away from the ER. The question was this:

“Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.”

Everyone raised their hand IIRC. :smack:

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/327 "2019-07-31T01:45:45Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> You guys are shifting the goalposts. This isn’t about whether someone with a grievous injury or life-threatening illness is turned away from the ER. The question was this:
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> “Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.”
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> Everyone raised their hand IIRC. :smack:

It seems to me, they were saying that undocumented immigrants would be paying into the system and by being part of the system would mean less “free” emergency room visits.

Eta: if you’re saying that’s way too nuanced to get into a soundbite so drop it, meh maybe.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/328 "2019-07-31T01:56:14Z")

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“Provide coverage” would clearly mean they could make an appointment to get medicine for their seasonal allergies or fund an expensive sleep study and CPAP machine for their sleep apnea…etc.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/329 "2019-07-31T02:35:11Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> You guys are shifting the goalposts. This isn’t about whether someone with a grievous injury or life-threatening illness is turned away from the ER. The question was this:
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> “Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.”
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> Everyone raised their hand IIRC. :smack:

The plan would cover everyone, what’s wrong with that?

See, the issue here is that the MAGA folks are putting this as ONLY Illegals get health benefits- and that they are free. Both are wrong.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/330 "2019-07-31T02:36:23Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> It seems to me, they were saying that undocumented immigrants would be paying into the system and by being part of the system would mean less “free” emergency room visits…

Yeah, and those visits to County ER cost more than general health care to us Taxpayers.

Its just cheaper and more effective to have medicare for ALL.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-obama-warns-of-progressive-purity-and-circular-firing-squads/832662/331 "2019-07-31T03:19:32Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The plan would cover everyone, what’s wrong with that?
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> See, the issue here is that the MAGA folks are putting this as ONLY Illegals get health benefits- and that they are free. Both are wrong.

No one who is gettable thinks that. :rolleyes:

And it might be cheaper and more effective, but it’s not good politics, as David Axelrod is explaining right now.

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