# President Richard Nixon shares his views on gay people **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 30, 2014, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945 "2014-08-30T07:29:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/21 "2014-08-30T20:51:45Z")
> [@ILikeForeignLanguages](#): > > And what, exactly, is the big, hairy deal? Are you people really so hostile that you would criticize someone for not putting every detail of the video in the description? That’s what the video itself is for - so you can watch it and find out what the contents are for yourselves. And the title of the thread _is_\*\* a description. It indicates that Nixon will be sharing his stance on gay people. I wanted the negative things he said to be a surprise to keep the viewers on the edge of their seats, and I also wanted to watch the surprised comments come rolling in, to see what the dopers’ overall response would be. You guys are literally criticizing me for _not_\*\* spoiling the video, which is, in my opinion, back-buttwards logic. I don’t click on video links because I’m usually not in a situation where I can watch them. Right at the moment, for example, I’m in a public park surrounded by other families and loud music. ETA: posted before I saw the moderator comment. ---
**Author:** ![ILikeForeignLanguages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@ILikeForeignLanguages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILikeForeignLanguages)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/22 "2014-08-30T21:00:30Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > We don’t want to be surprised by the contents of a link. We want to be able to discuss the issue or decide whether to click it based on a basic understanding of what’s there before clicking. If you have something to say about it, we should be able to understand it purely from the content of your post. The link to the video _is_\*\* the content of my post. ---
**Author:** ![ILikeForeignLanguages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@ILikeForeignLanguages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILikeForeignLanguages)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/23 "2014-08-30T21:03:01Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Describe what Nixon says about gays or I’m closing this thread. Don’t argue with me or anyone else about this further; you are wasting your time and also everybody else’s. It’s a video of Nixon describing a TV show which he says “glorifies homosexuality,” and how that type of programming shouldn’t be on TV. He also goes on a rant about the “leftists” and “communists” benefit from the media glorifying homosexuality. P.S. Don’t tell me who I may and may not argue with. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/24 "2014-08-30T21:06:44Z")
> [@ILikeForeignLanguages](#): > > It’s a video of Nixon describing a TV show which he says “glorifies homosexuality,” and how that type of programming shouldn’t be on TV. He also goes on a rant about the “leftists” and “communists” benefit from the media glorifying homosexuality. Thank you. Let’s finally move on with the thread, then. That goes for everybody. > [@](#): > > P.S. Don’t tell me who I may and may not argue with. I refer you to the rules of this site, which say arguments and complaints about moderating go in About This Message Board and no other forum. _Moving on…_ ---
**Author:** ![ILikeForeignLanguages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@ILikeForeignLanguages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILikeForeignLanguages)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/25 "2014-08-30T21:14:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Thank you. Let’s finally move on with the thread, then. That goes for everybody. > > I refer you to the rules of this site, which say arguments and complaints about moderating go in About This Message Board and no other forum. _Moving on…_ My apologies. I lost my cool here. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/26 "2014-08-30T23:23:48Z")
> [@ILikeForeignLanguages](#): > > The link works for me. I’m not sure why people are acting like they can’t access the video. I can access the video (on my desktop computer, even if not on my phone). Thing is, if there is a text-based alternative, I prefer to look for that first. For various reasons, I don’t really like playing videos with the sound on, so I try to avoid it if I can. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/27 "2014-08-30T23:27:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That isn’t a description of the content. It’s, at best, a description of a description of the content. A description of the content would be something like “Nixon believed that homosexuality was a leftist plot”. Or at the very least, “Nixon was opposed to homosexuality”. Or even “Nixon was surprisingly open-minded toward homosexuality and the homosexual community.” ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/28 "2014-08-30T23:58:38Z")
> [@ILikeForeignLanguages](#): > > The link to the video _is_\*\* the content of my post. Why the hell should anyone waste time watching a video which could be a commentary, a cartoon, a Saturday Night sketch, or dogs fucking if you can’t take one moment to present the premise of the OP? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/29 "2014-08-31T00:00:52Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Why the hell should anyone waste time watching a video which could be a commentary, a cartoon, a Saturday Night sketch, or dogs fucking if you can’t take one moment to present the premise of the OP? He’s explained it now, so let’s move along and get the thread started properly. If anyone wants to criticize the way **ILikeForeignLanguage** phrased his OP rather than the substance of what Nixon said, take it to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/30 "2014-08-31T00:02:10Z")
Fair enough, I responded before reading the whole thread which I admit is never a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/31 "2014-08-31T01:23:12Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Or even “Nixon was surprisingly open-minded toward homosexuality and the homosexual community.” Or perhaps “Nixon was even less hep to pop culture than you suspected.” (Judging from his reference to the era’s #1 TV program, “All in the Family” as “Archie’s Guys.”) PS: Any particular reason for this being in **Elections**? It’s not like Tricky Dick’s running for office any more. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/32 "2014-08-31T01:43:35Z")
To use a common catchphrase in this Board, this is the break the McGovern campaign has been looking for… I’ve got to stand behind **Chronos** ’ first post and **Fuzzy\_wuzzy**. We already knew he was a colossal putz AND a reactionary in the culture wars, never mind the “old, _dead_ guy” factor ( **42fish** has a point). ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/33 "2014-08-31T13:41:31Z")
This could be just the break the McGovern campaign is waiting for! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/34 "2014-08-31T14:17:20Z")
How is this likely to affect the McGovern campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/35 "2014-08-31T14:30:16Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > PS: Any particular reason for this being in **Elections**? It’s not like Tricky Dick’s running for office any more. That’s what everyone thought in 1962, to. Then look what happened! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/36 "2014-08-31T14:37:53Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > This could be just the break the McGovern campaign is waiting for! > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > How is this likely to affect the McGovern campaign? Meme fail. I’m just not sure who blew it. ---
**Author:** ![PorchePine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@PorchePine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PorchePine)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/37 "2014-08-31T15:17:51Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > That’s what everyone thought in 1962, to. Then look what happened! What _does_ the constitution say about zombies? ---
**Author:** ![PorchePine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@PorchePine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PorchePine)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/38 "2014-08-31T15:19:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That isn’t a description of the content. It’s, at best, a description of a description of the content. A description of the content would be something like “Nixon believed that homosexuality was a leftist plot”. Or at the very least, “Nixon was opposed to homosexuality”. Or Nixon though that two actors portraying homosexuals were **magnificent looking.** ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/39 "2014-08-31T20:11:37Z")
His words: [QUOTE=Nixon] The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time — it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can’t shake hands with anybody from San Francisco. Decorators. They got to do something. But we don’t have to glorify it. You know one of the reasons fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddamned designers hate women. Designers taking it out on the women. Now they’re trying to get some more sexy things coming on again. [/QUOTE] The Bohemian Grove is of course a meeting of conservative-ish rich men who spend a weekend doing quasi-homoerotic things. And nutters like Alex Jones think they sacrifice babies or something. But I too am shocked that our Greatest President™ had homophobic and sexist opinions! ---
**Author:** ![callander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@callander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callander)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945/40 "2014-08-31T20:26:09Z")
for those interested if you haven’t seen the documentary Nixon by Nixon or it may be titled Nixon on Nixon worth a watch. He talks about gays, Jews and a few others. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-richard-nixon-shares-his-views-on-gay-people/696945.md?page=3)