# President Trump's sexual harassment thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 13, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412 "2017-12-13T17:41:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/1 "2017-12-13T17:41:12Z")
Today, [the AP quietly printed this brief story](https://apnews.com/48033d2974f44cdab751fa49844afead/Wife-of-Luc-Robitaille-tweets-about-Trump-elevator-encounter): > [@](#): > > The wife of Hall of Fame hockey player Luc Robitaille has tweeted about an encounter with Donald Trump more than two decades ago in an elevator at Madison Square Garden. > > Stacia Robitaille wrote Monday on Twitter that Trump “was aggressive & told me I was coming home with him. I laughed, stating I was married to a Ranger. He guaranteed me my husband didn’t make as much money as him. #ThisIsOurPresident.” > > The couple married in 1992. Luc Robitaille played for the New York Rangers from 1995-97 and was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2009. He currently is president of the Los Angeles Kings. > > Stacia Robitaille responded to criticism in a second tweet , saying: “I’m not a liberal lefty and I’m not looking for attention. Just felt bad keeping it to myself.” > > More than a dozen women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct over the last year. He denies the allegations. A year ago, [Trump threatened to sue all his accusers.](https://apnews.com/a847075beea54855800ade95bf26508c/Off-his-message-again:-Trump-vows-to-sue-all-female-accusers) > [@](#): > > “All of these liars will be sued once the election is over,” Trump said. He added later: “I look so forward to doing that.” ]I can’t find the story at the moment, but I recall reading in the past week or so that three or 4 of the women who had previously come forward with accusations against Trump were in the news saying that they hoped that now their stories got a bit more attention. Here is the Wikipedia page about our President: [Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations). There’s a list there of women who have come forward, but it doesn’t yet include Mrs. Robitaille; no idea if she is the only person missing from the list. I have a feeling that President Trump’s past is about to get looked at more closely, and I didn’t see any existing threads that seemed focused exclusively on discussing Trump’s behavior and/or any forthcoming legal actions (and public maneuvering), so here we go. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/2 "2017-12-13T17:54:44Z")
Here’s the cynical view: Al Franken agreed to sacrifice himself to take out Trump. The Democrats couldn’t go after Trump as long as Franken remained in office. But now that Franken has resigned, they have the moral high ground and can make the public argument that Trump is at least as guilty as Franken is and should follow Franken’s example. And if Trump won’t leave office voluntarily (which he almost certainly won’t) they’ll give him a push. Even if they can’t force Trump out of office, they’ll be able to destroy what little credibility and influence he has left. Trump’s going to become a lame duck President before he finishes his first year in office. And while Trump can defy the Democrats, he has to worry about losing Republican support. If the Republicans try to support Trump and the Democrats play it right, a lot of women voters might switch to the Democrats in 2018 and 2020. And the Republicans, who are already in a demographic trap, can’t afford that. They might instead decide that Trump, like Franken, needs to be sacrificed for the good of the party. Most of the Republican establishment would prefer to see Pence in the Oval Office anyway and he’s teflon on any sexual harassment charges. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/3 "2017-12-17T00:28:59Z")
[Hmmmmmm](https://apnews.com/673131ac154a4fdc9e9ed856c98fbf3f/AP-FACT-CHECK:-Trump-denies-knowing-women-he-met): > [@Donald Trump](#): > > Despite thousands of hours wasted and many millions of dollars spent, the Democrats have been unable to show any collusion with Russia - so now they are moving on to the false accusations and fabricated stories of women who I don’t know and/or have never met. FAKE NEWS! :dubious: > [@](#): > > There’s no question he met and knew accusers, whatever the truth of the allegations. Two were contestants on “The Apprentice,” the show he hosted. Another woman was a People magazine journalist who interviewed him. Another was a would-be business partner with whom he posed for a photo. Another was a Miss Finland who appeared on David Letterman’s former late-night TV show with him and has a photo of the two of them. Also: a porn actress and director who shows up in a photo with him, and a former Fox News host who had lunch with him. > > Trump spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders, trying to clarify, said Trump was referring only to the three women who discussed their accounts Monday at a news conference and on TV, but that was not what Trump’s tweet said. > > Of those three, one was a Miss USA contestant when Trump was running the pageant and another worked at Trump Tower. Neither circumstance, by itself, proves that Trump met them. But no one has refuted their accounts or the account of the third woman, who said Trump groped her when they were seat-mates on a flight in the 1980s. More than a dozen women have alleged inappropriate behavior by Trump ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/4 "2018-02-16T19:51:35Z")
Stormy Daniels we all know about, but how about [1998 Playboy Playmate of the year Karen McDougal](https://apnews.com/b522486deff64311892adb684e7ebd51/Magazine-obtains-ex-playmate's-account-of-Trump-affair)? > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump had a nine-month extramarital affair with the 1998 Playboy Playmate of the year beginning in 2006, showing the woman his wife’s bedroom in Trump Tower and bringing her to his private bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel, according to the woman’s eight-page, handwritten account of the relationship obtained by The New Yorker magazine. > > The woman, Karen McDougal, confirmed in the story published online Friday that she wrote the account but said she was constrained in what else she could say publicly about Trump because she’d signed a confidentiality agreement. Here’s the link to the New Yorker story: [Donald Trump, a Playboy Model, and a System for Concealing Infidelity](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-a-playboy-model-and-a-system-for-concealing-infidelity-national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal). > [@](#): > > The interactions that McDougal outlines in the document share striking similarities with the stories of other women who claim to have had sexual relationships with Trump, or who have accused him of propositioning them for sex or sexually harassing them. McDougal describes their affair as entirely consensual. But her account provides a detailed look at how Trump and his allies used clandestine hotel-room meetings, payoffs, and complex legal agreements to keep affairs—sometimes multiple affairs he carried out simultaneously—out of the press. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/5 "2018-02-16T20:03:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Here’s the cynical view: Al Franken agreed to sacrifice himself to take out Trump. > > The Democrats couldn’t go after Trump as long as Franken remained in office. But now that Franken has resigned, they have the moral high ground and can make the public argument that Trump is at least as guilty as Franken is and should follow Franken’s example. And if Trump won’t leave office voluntarily (which he almost certainly won’t) they’ll give him a push. > > Even if they can’t force Trump out of office, they’ll be able to destroy what little credibility and influence he has left. Trump’s going to become a lame duck President before he finishes his first year in office. That stretch is worthy of Reed Richards. And he’s already finished his first year in office. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/6 "2018-02-17T03:53:33Z")
If the democrats win the house in 2018, we need special investigations into all of Trump’s sexual allegations (among other things). Sexual harassment, sex crimes, forcing women to get abortions, etc. It all needs to be investigated, and any crimes passed onto the DOJ or state level prosecutors. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/7 "2018-02-17T08:05:30Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > If the democrats win the house in 2018, we need special investigations into all of Trump’s sexual allegations (among other things). > > Sexual harassment, sex crimes, forcing women to get abortions, etc. It all needs to be investigated, and any crimes passed onto the DOJ or state level prosecutors. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it’s another Fantastic Four wannabe. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/8 "2018-02-17T15:06:37Z")
I’ll just leave this here. Snopes link - [Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl](https://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/) This was 20 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/9 "2018-02-17T15:29:00Z")
Remember when Republicans suspected that Bill Clinton was cheating on his wife, so they investigated that because they pretended to believe that such behavior was worthy of sanction? What a Republican stands for, and what a Republican _claims_ to stand for sure can be at odds. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/10 "2018-02-17T15:36:18Z")
Can someone explain how the lead story in the OP is harassment? Trump is a philanderer, among man other things some of which are actually harassment or worse. Is anyone shocked? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/11 "2018-02-17T15:46:15Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Remember when Republicans suspected that Bill Clinton was cheating on his wife, so they investigated that because they pretended to believe that such behavior was worthy of sanction? What a Republican stands for, and what a Republican _claims_ to stand for sure can be at odds. Here is what the republican party truly cares about, in order of importance. Obtaining and keeping power for themselves and keeping their opposition out of power Plutocracy White nationalism Thats pretty much it. If you look at the GOP through that lens, and assume everything they do is designed to service these 3 agendas their behavior makes a lot more sense. Notice things like ‘defend democracy’ or ‘be morally consistent’ aren’t on this list. I swear to god, we better not get another fucking Obama after Trump. I didn’t mind Obama, but he was such a spineless, ‘bipartisan’ wimp. We need FDR, not some wimp who is desperate to be liked. We are fighting against people who don’t value democracy and who are ok with treason now as long as it services the 3 agendas above. We don’t need wimpy ass half measures or people desperate to be friends when dealing with people who openly declare war on democracy just so long as it gives tax cuts to the rich and white nationalism a national platform. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/12 "2018-02-17T17:11:13Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can someone explain how the lead story in the OP is harassment? > > Trump is a philanderer, among man other things some of which are actually harassment or worse. Is anyone shocked? I think everyone is well past shock, awe, fire & fury. Personally, I vacillate between resignation and peckishness. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/13 "2018-02-17T17:34:18Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I think everyone is well past shock, awe, fire & fury. Personally, I vacillate between resignation and peckishness. I go back and forth between despondency and rage. I’m sure its good for me. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/14 "2018-02-17T21:42:00Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I think everyone is well past shock, awe, fire & fury. Personally, I vacillate between resignation and peckishness. Mostly nausea, with an overlay of rage and contempt. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/15 "2018-02-17T21:49:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can someone explain how the lead story in the OP is harassment? > > Trump is a philanderer, among man other things some of which are actually harassment or worse. Is anyone shocked? Not shocked at ALL. We’ve known what a racist, misogynistic, bullying asshole trump is and has been for YEARS. Most of the country is a bit surprised how many people can support such a jerk (I will not call him a man. He is not). A third of the country still supports this asshole. That’s the shock. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/16 "2018-02-17T21:54:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can someone explain how the lead story in the OP is harassment? > > Trump is a philanderer, among man other things some of which are actually harassment or worse. Is anyone shocked? Oh, and to actually answer your question. I think that it is possibly harassment. In that it sounds like trump did not want to take no for an answer. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/17 "2018-02-18T08:01:41Z")
Sessions would never get his nose out of Trump’s colon long enough to charge him. Let alone Congressional Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/18 "2018-02-18T09:32:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can someone explain how the lead story in the OP is harassment? The fact that they were in an elevator (a confined space with no way out for a little bit) and she says he was aggressive is what allows me to think it _may_ have been harassment. Unfortunately, it could also have been a joke. Especially since that last line sounds exactly like a joke. Then again, this is Trump, and he is obsessed with money and uses it to judge his own value as a person. Maybe he really is dumb enough to say something that ridiculous with all sincerity. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/19 "2018-02-18T19:46:19Z")
Since this is about his sexual harassment, and not his criminal dealings… Ok, how many trump supporters on this board would be fine if - Obama had… [ol] [li]Been married three times. And had children from each marriage.[/li][li]Had been sued for raping a 13yo girl. (not to mention all the other lawsuits he has been involved in)[/li][li]Raped and beated his second wife, pulling her hair out. Because he was mad about his hair lose surgery.[/li][li]Had had a number of extra marital affairs, and has paid off at least one of them to keep quite about it.[/li][li]Has a current wife that is nothing more than an eastern European gold-digger. A woman that has been in porn films.[/li][/ol] Now the above is just the tip of the iceberg. We can start here. I would like a show of hands from trump supporters that this is all OK, and they would not have had any problems if Obama had done the same things. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412/20 "2018-02-18T20:39:18Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Since this is about his sexual harassment, and not his criminal dealings… > > Ok, how many trump supporters on this board would be fine if - > > Obama had… > > [ol] > [li]Been married three times. And had children from each marriage.[/li][li]Had been sued for raping a 13yo girl. (not to mention all the other lawsuits he has been involved in)[/li][li]Raped and beated his second wife, pulling her hair out. Because he was mad about his hair lose surgery.[/li][li]Had had a number of extra marital affairs, and has paid off at least one of them to keep quite about it.[/li][li]Has a current wife that is nothing more than an eastern European gold-digger. A woman that has been in porn films.[/li][/ol] > > Now the above is just the tip of the iceberg. We can start here. > > I would like a show of hands from trump supporters that this is all OK, and they would not have had any problems if Obama had done the same things. This is also the man who can’t control himself from kissing women he doesn’t know, because he can. And walks through rooms of teenage girls in various stages of undress, because he can. (Trump, not Obama, obviously.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-trumps-sexual-harassment-thread/804412.md?page=2)