# President Zelensky refuses U.S. offer to evacuate, saying 'I need ammunition, not a ride' **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [February 26, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170 "2022-02-26T23:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/21 "2022-03-04T18:06:29Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Correct spelling: Володимир Зеленський The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper’s spelling uses lowercase cursive font letterforms. The spelling is correct in that font. Your spelling is in the normal “upright” font; theirs is in the cursive font form, equivalent to our italics in typography. You can see here: > **[I'll come up with a cool title later](https://sov-ja.tumblr.com/post/156550449163/ive-been-learning-how-to-read-cyrillic-but-im)** > > I've been learning how to read cyrillic, but I'm having a hard time finding resources on different fonts? Because even reading your handwriting it looks different than the text i usually see online.... But, yes, it’s confusing and should be given in the standard upright typeface to avoid confusion (at least IMHO). ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/22 "2022-03-04T18:15:34Z")
Washington Post article about how the Ukrainian population are using social media: > **[How Ukrainians have used social media to humiliate the Russians and rally the...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/01/social-media-ukraine-russia/)** > > A defiant insurgency has used the Internet to counter one of the world’s most fearsome war machines: “Welcome to hell." It’s got an effective map of Ukraine and Russia that one Ukrainian Instagrammer has put up. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/23 "2022-09-14T11:30:43Z")
Six months on, Zelenskyy continues to show his rhetorical skills: > [@](#): > > In a forceful statement to Russia on Sunday night, Zelensky insisted the invaders would be expelled. “Read my lips,” he said. “Without gas or without you? Without you. Without light or without you? Without you. Without water or without you? Without you. Without food or without you? Without you. Cold, hunger, darkness and thirst are not as scary and deadly for us as your ‘friendship and brotherhood.’ ” > **[Amid Ukraine’s startling gains, liberated villages describe Russian troops...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/11/kharkiv-liberated-retreat-izyum-russia/)** > > Ukraine's blitz liberated Izyum and other occupied areas in Kharkiv region, but Russia still holds large swaths of territory and a major advantage in firepower ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/24 "2022-09-14T13:12:27Z")
This December, Time Magazine won’t have to debate who will be Man of the Year. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/25 "2022-09-14T13:20:04Z")
Well, him, or Ukrainians collectively. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/26 "2022-09-14T13:42:01Z")
I love that! Good for him! LOL ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/27 "2022-09-14T14:00:57Z")
I had already shared that message with several friends and relatives. It’s as good as Obama’s best, with the added power of life-and-death circumstance. I first saw it on Reddit, and have tried to locate the source, but without much success. Google offers several sites reporting it, chiefly CNN. Some articles mention that it was a Telegram post – apparently Telegram is an important messaging app in Ukraine, India and elsewhere – but it doesn’t show up in Zelensky’s official Telegram feed, at least not in English. Some sources provide a bit more text, which I think **actually strengthens the message** : "Do you still think we are one people? Do you still think you can scare us, break us, force us to make concessions? Don’t you really get it? Don’t you understand who we are? What we stand for? What we are all about? Read my lips: Without gas or without you? Without you. Without light or without you? Without you. Without water or without you. Without you. Without food or without you? Without you. Cold, hunger, darkness and thirst are not as frightening and deadly for us as your friendship and brotherhood. But history will put everything in its place. And we will be with gas, light, water and food and WITHOUT you!" ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170/28 "2022-09-15T10:45:32Z")
Not only is he skilled with words, he has backed that up with personal bravery and a strength of will. News sources are crediting Zelensky as behind the push to make a counter offence large enough to be significant. The Ukrainian military, working with the US and UK came up with the plan for the counter offence in Kharkiv region and it’s a gamechanger. The high-level, former US and British military leaders talking heads are on a roll now. I [just watched](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U4VsZ03K0k) Richard Shirreff, Former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe argue that the West should be giving Ukraine planes and missiles for the HIMARS, to hell with tiptoeing around possibly offending the bear. Increased morale for the Ukrainians, decreased morale for the Russians. Damn well done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-zelensky-refuses-u-s-offer-to-evacuate-saying-i-need-ammunition-not-a-ride/960170.md?page=1)