# Presidential Election, 2012. Are you undecided?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336 "2011-07-17T08:13:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/21 "2011-07-18T04:21:40Z")

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Voted Obama in 2008 and definitely will vote Obama in 2012, no question about it.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/22 "2011-07-18T07:25:10Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Agreed. I wouldn’t vote for a Republican for President or anything else even if they agreed on me on every single issue, simply because the party as a whole is so amoral and maniacal that I oppose giving it even the slightest shred more of power or influence.

I agree with this. I used to be a Republican, and never in my life have I seen politicians so blatantly willing to toss the whole country under the bus economically just to gain power. (Well, the whole country except for what W. referred to as “his base:” i.e. extremely wealthy conservatives.)

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/23 "2011-07-18T17:44:48Z")

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Depends on who the Republican nominee is. If it’s a complete tool like [I won’t say who because I don’t want to turn this into a Great Debate], then I’ll probably vote third party.

Then again, I might vote third party anyway, since Illinois will undoubtedly go to Obama and I might as well be throwing my vote into the toilet.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/24 "2011-07-19T17:03:17Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> As I have said many times, not every Republican is a bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, illiterate asshole - but every bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, illiterate asshole IS a Republican.

I guess you’ve never been to Southern West Virginia.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/25 "2011-07-19T18:30:27Z")

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Voted “probably for Obama” but wanted to clarify that the other option would not be the Republican unless a VERY unusual GOP candidate hit the ground, but a hypothetical third party far-left candidate (Greens or somesuch), if my state were not for whatever reason a swing state when the election came around. I’m not a ‘moderate’-waffler but a disgruntled far leftist.

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**Author:** ![geneb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a88e4f/32.png) [@geneb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geneb)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/26 "2011-07-19T19:32:07Z")

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Never registered to vote. If I was, I would be tempted to vote for someone other than Obama in the hope that all of this partisan bullshit stops. (As the republicans said… Their first priority is getting back in power. Hopefully once they do that they will stop causing so much trouble) I would more than likely vote for Obama, though.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/27 "2011-07-19T19:42:49Z")

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There’s a presidential election in 2011?

Need someone to request a change to the thread title?

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/28 "2011-07-19T20:23:21Z")

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I’ve changed it to 2012 — I initially thought the OP was seeking people’s thoughts in 2011, but it does seem a little confusing.

Remember we have the election forum too.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/29 "2011-07-19T20:27:53Z")

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I will probably vote for Obama unless Colorado is guaranteed to go Democrat, in which case I’ll vote for a third-party or independent candidate who reflects my values.

I will never, ever, ever vote for a Republican candidate, for any office. Even if there are socially liberal Republicans out there, the fact that they’ve chosen to align themselves with a party that tolerates Michele Bachmann, Orrin Hatch, JTeabaggers, and other nutbags of that ilk makes them morally bankrupt in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/30 "2011-07-19T20:38:45Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> How was John McCain a phony?

thelabdude’s just upset because his catcher’s mitt wasn’t big enough and all those kids fell off the cliff.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/31 "2011-07-19T20:44:36Z")

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Have you seen these clowns the Republicans are running?

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/32 "2011-07-19T21:11:04Z")

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If Gary Johnson got the nomination while somehow remaining Gary Johnson, I’d vote for him over Obama in a heartbeat, then go ice skating in Hell. Barring that, I don’t see any way I could vote for anyone in the Republican field.

I really wish the Republican party could somehow jettison the (generally religio-conservative) nutters so that I’d actually have to give some thought to my choices in the voting booth.

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/33 "2011-07-19T22:49:50Z")

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I have decided to vote for a person I’ve voted for 4 times before, Dick Gregory.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/34 "2011-07-19T22:54:18Z")

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I could theoretically vote for a Republican candidate, but in reality the tea party is pushing candidates too far to the right for that to happen. I haven’t voted for a third party candidate since Anderson in 1980. That pretty much leaves Obama.

The added bonus is that it makes the folks who are racist and hate Obama absolutely furious, so he’s got that going for him.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/35 "2011-07-20T05:07:42Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> There’s a presidential election in 2011?
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> Need someone to request a change to the thread title?

Whoops.

I was just curious about how many people on the SDMB are undecided, with over a year to go. As expected, very few.

Not that this will stop us from debating it all endlessly.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/36 "2011-07-20T20:03:44Z")

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I am waiting to see who gets the Republican nomination, although I’ll probably vote Obama if they go with a Tea Party type. (I almost never say how I actually vote, as I feel it defeats the purpose of the secret ballot - too bad if it lets closet homophobes vote for Proposition 8; it’s still better than the alternative.)

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-election-2012-are-you-undecided/589336/37 "2011-07-20T21:02:59Z")

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Is it likely that someone who doesn’t kowtow to the “Tea Party” could win the GOP nomination?

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