# Presidential poll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 27, 2000, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704 "2000-09-27T04:05:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Boris\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Boris\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boris_B)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/41 "2000-09-28T06:09:36Z")

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My first choice for President is Gore, but my pragmatism is pushing me to vote for Gore.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/42 "2000-09-28T06:37:02Z")

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Vote Chuthulu in 2000! Why choose the _lesser_ of two evils?

I’m currently undecided, but in order of likelihood:  
Gore  
Nader  
Bush

[tirade about whether to pick a major party or 3rd party candidate deleted in the interests of keeping debate out of this thread]

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**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/43 "2000-09-28T06:39:41Z")

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I was undecided until I went and read Browne’s site. Gore it is. No, I’m waaay fucking kidding. No way in hell I’d vote for that communist bastard.

You may have a bad feeling about Bush, but I’d rather have an idiot for a president than someone who is actively evil.

Browne all the way.

Phil, you’re going to have to stop agreeing with me, or I’m going to have to stop sticking pins in my pldennison voodoo doll! 😃

I made the exact same argument in PolSci class, and the sheep looked at me with gaping mouths, not understanding. One said “What in the hell are you saying?” and that got some giggles. Nothing like flaunting your ignorance for humor these days.

I argued that ideally, everyone would recognize the futility of their vote, yet vote anyway, because that would make a person more truthful in their vote. No more “want: browne, vote: bush” or “want: nader, vote: gore” bullshit. If you know how little your vote actually means, you’re going to vote how you actually feel instead of following a party line, or just voting for “the guy who’s gonna win anyway.” Well dammit, he might not win if people like you didn’t all vote for him because “he’s just going to win anyway.”

I’m irritated with all these American cows. Gimme McD’s, Britney Spears, Wal-Mart, and a new SUV, and I won’t make a peep as you roll all over my rights as a human and as an American, I swear.

–Tim

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**Author:** ![bare](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bare/32/471_2.png) [@bare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bare)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/44 "2000-09-28T07:23:14Z")

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Rah’s anyone?

Gore, Gore,  
He’s our whore  
If we don’t vote him  
Life’s a bore. alternate; hear the roar.

WORLD’S BEST POET!!!

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/45 "2000-09-28T13:17:56Z")

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I will be voting for Nader.

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**Author:** ![jwg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@jwg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jwg)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/46 "2000-09-28T14:49:24Z")

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Bush -

Gore failed out of divinity school. That is somehow more disturbing than his failing out of law school.

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/47 "2000-09-28T21:19:18Z")

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I’m going to be voting for Nadar.

Gore is so lackluster, it’s not funny. Tipper as 1st Lady isn’t a pleasant thought, either.

Bush is a very nice, sincere man who’s completely handled by the Republican spin doctors. He hasn’t a unique thought in his head.

Pat Buchanan? I’d be very interested in voting for the Reform Party if Pat hadn’t torn it apart.

Libertarian candidates? Interesting, but their single-minded devotion to free enterprise while ignoring its excesses as shown by history worries me.

Well, that’s my reasoning.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/48 "2000-09-28T21:26:08Z")

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Spooje or anyone,

Where does Gore stand on school vouchers is he for or against them?

Want Keyes  
Vote Bush

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**Author:** ![tomas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tomas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomas)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/49 "2000-09-28T21:54:06Z")

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Mikhail Gorbachev  
Let’s get it over with

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**Author:** ![Palandine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@Palandine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palandine)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/50 "2000-09-28T22:01:57Z")

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Browne…and he’s gonna WIN, too! 😃

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2000, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/51 "2000-09-28T22:08:03Z")

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Registered: Republican  
Wanted: McCain  
Voting: Gore

For whoever said that they’d rather have an idiot than a sleazeball . . . IMO Gore’s status as a sleazeball is open to debate (though I am NOT interested in debating it); unfortunately, Bush’s status as a total idiot is not.

Anybody see Doonesbury today? Very rat amusing.

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**Author:** ![KeithT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@KeithT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KeithT)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/52 "2000-09-29T05:09:58Z")

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**KeithT** votes Browne.

With 41 votes in, the count thus far is:

Nader: 7 (17%)  
Bush: 9 (22%)  
Browne: 10 (24%)  
Gore: 15 (37%)

If **MisterEcks, wolfman,** and **pkbites** voted their conscience, we’d have:

Bush: 6 (15%)  
Nader: 7 (17%)  
Browne: 13 (32%)  
Gore: 15 (37%)

C’mon, guys… that’s almost enough for a SDMB runoff!

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**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/53 "2000-09-29T16:19:53Z")

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> \*Quoth Homer: \*  
> \*\*You may have a bad feeling about Bush, but I’d rather have an idiot for a president than someone who is actively evil. \*\*

And, to extend your analogy, did it matter in 1939 that Britain was led by a Bush and Germany by a Gore? They both got the country involved in a war.

Bush is dim, but NOT retarded. Gore is a lawyer, but NOT evil. I like Nader and wish him well. I know nothing of Browne, but suspect he is a decent man. And I still don’t care especially about this election. What I am considering doing is deliberately not voting for any of them. I don’t want to show support for a system I dislike by voting for a “lesser evil” when none of them will be capable, whether they want to be or not, of fixing the bloat, corruption, and indifference of American society in general or the goverment in particular. I show my disgust by refusing to acknowledge it has any power over me. Sometimes I wonder if other “apathetic” voters are on strike.

I will be voting **for** Wallace Collins. He’s my state rep. He does a good job. I want to keep him. Everyone else can go scratch. The only thing calling me to vote for any of them is a misplaced since of duty, the futility-with-honesty that you spoke of. My choice? Nader. He’s not on the ballot in my state, and we’re not allowed write-ins. So I’d be back to Gore, not because he does or says anything to attract me so much as he doesn’t associate with those who repel me. Great system, huh?

Begone, Tim, you annoy me. I keep finding myself agreeing with you and it frightens me. 😕:eek:;)🆒

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**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/54 "2000-09-29T17:39:02Z")

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\*\*Wildest Bill—\*\*You asked about Gore and his stance on school vouchers. He’s opposed to them. What’s a little sticky for him is that Joe Lieberman is for them. It’s for this and other reasons that I’m not at all excited about Lieberman on the Gore ticket. I don’t care for staunch, religious, moralizing politicians, and Lieberman certainly fits that bill.

One of the reasons I like Gore is that he’s come out very strongly against school vouchers—it’s not just a flimsy plank in his platform. Gore also seems to have backbone, so I’m not worried about him waffling on that issue.

God willing, a school voucher bill will never make it out of Congress. Realisticly, though, I think school vouchers will one day pass into law, and their existence will prove to be such a crashing failure that they will have to be repealed—just like forced busing and prohibition.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/55 "2000-09-29T18:34:17Z")

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Bush. Gore just seems way to unprincipled for me, seems like a guy who’d say anything for a vote.

And…

Jman (and those who agreed with him):

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> I have this strange feeling that I’ve never EVER had before. I have this feeling that if GW Bush is elected President, something very, very, very bad is going to happen. I don’t know why, or how, or what…just a gut instinct feeling.

Gee…sounds like an effect of subliminal advertising!

Rat, anyone?

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2000, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/56 "2000-09-29T18:36:38Z")

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Jodi:

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> Anybody see Doonesbury today? Very rat amusing.

Actually, this week’s **Boondocks** strips do it even better. And I’m not generally a Boondocks fan. But if the writer can keep up a level like that, he may very well have won me over.

Chaim Mattis Keller

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2000, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/57 "2000-09-30T14:13:55Z")

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> Second, for those of you who are voting for Nader. Please, please, please do your research and examine the Green parties platform, don’t just react to the 2 party system.

I’m well aware of the (generally screwy) Green platform, but it’s also been commonly accepted that Nader does not kowtow (sp?) to the platform and has replaced its agenda with his own. There is no doubt in my mind that he would lead the country based on his conscience and not from pressure from his “party.” He even freely admits he doesn’t know everything they endorse, and he doesn’t seem to care–he’s using them to gain a higher level of visibility for himself and his issues. Good for him.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2000, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/58 "2000-09-30T14:44:46Z")

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So why not write Cecil Adams in?😉

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**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2000, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidential-poll/34704/59 "2000-09-30T22:25:06Z")

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Wanted: McCain  
Voting: Bush

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