# Presidents and sports **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104 "2019-11-07T02:51:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/21 "2019-11-10T00:01:45Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > :smack: That’s rich coming from Roger Clemens, a guy who carried on a decade-long affair with a female country singer half his age who later committed suicide. Clemens is seen as a typical white male Republican; hypocritical on family values issues, like Gingrich. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/22 "2019-11-10T00:05:43Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > _off mike_ > Yeah, but see, someone just critcized Clinton because he… > Oh, nevermind. DiMaggio was a old school. Bill Clinton is seen as the baby-boomer irresponsible draft dodger than the Silent and Greatest generations did not like and that millennials mock as “Ok Boomer”. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/23 "2019-11-10T00:18:06Z")
_mike back on_ Joltin Joe was a old school, all right. A really old school. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/24 "2019-11-10T00:28:48Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I’ve been following baseball for a long time, it’s never been a secret that many of them that are political lean conservative. Just look at all the military and patriotic stuff that surrounds baseball, of course Memorial Day and Independence Day do fall during baseball season. > > Now college football in Alabama isn’t going to allow student protests when Trump visits. I have no idea about the politics of the Alabama campus, but I assume it’s full of Trumpers given its location. > [With President Trump set to attend, Alabama student group warns organizations about 'disruptive behavior' during LSU game - NBC Sports](https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/06/with-president-trump-set-to-attend-alabama-student-group-warns-organizations-about-disruptive-behavior-during-lsu-game/) What other college games has he attended? How did he get invited to this one? Any chance that this was just a chance to exclude Jeff Sessions from the Presidential Box? ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/25 "2019-11-10T00:29:38Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > _mike back on_ > Joltin Joe was a old school, all right. A really old school. He was a old school white man. That is the truth. A lot of them don’t like the Clintons. Period. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/26 "2019-11-10T00:52:04Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > What other college games has he attended? How did he get invited to this one? > > Any chance that this was just a chance to exclude Jeff Sessions from the Presidential Box? Most of the white college athletes, some of them are Republican-leaning as well. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/27 "2019-11-10T02:38:00Z")
Many NASCAR fans are white. They drink American beers and vote Republican. Hillary Clinton is seen as a wife of the ex-president Bill Clinton, a Democrat. Most white Republicans did not vote for the Clintons. NBA players are often black, while professional golfers are usually white. A knowing exception to this is Tiger Woods, a very famous golfer and a friend of the Republican US President Donald Trump, who is a white man. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/28 "2019-11-10T15:45:41Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Many NASCAR fans are white. They drink American beers and vote Republican. > > Hillary Clinton is seen as a wife of the ex-president Bill Clinton, a Democrat. Most white Republicans did not vote for the Clintons. > > NBA players are often black, while professional golfers are usually white. A knowing exception to this is Tiger Woods, a very famous golfer and a friend of the Republican US President Donald Trump, who is a white man. > > Why is that? NBA players tend to be liberal. But I wonder if some of the white NBA players tend to be more liberal like their black colleagues. Whenever a Republican is in office, the NBA teams always opt out of going. Whenever a Democratic president is in office, some white NHL or MLB players opt out. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/29 "2019-11-10T15:48:20Z")
Have you ever noticed how white people drive like this… ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/30 "2019-12-17T21:30:06Z")
On this side of the pond, when George Osborne (who was then the Tory Chancellor) attended the Paralympics event I was at, he was loudly booed. Prince Edward was cheered at the same session probably mainly because people wanted to show they weren’t just booing everyone. Jeremy Hunt (then health secretary) and Theresa May were also booed at the paralympics, and David Cameron was heckled at one of the Olympics ceremonies he attended. The Tory govt had brought in a lot of cuts that disproportionately affected disabled people so it wasn’t surprising they were booed at the Paralympics. Same goes for sports where the participants and fans are more likely to be in groups that don’t support that particular politician or their party. What’s surprising is Boris Johnson being booed at a cricket match in 2018. Cricket is mostly small-c conservative and the crowds are not generally rowdy. And of course their political careers weren’t affected in the slightest bit. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > DiMaggio was a old school. > > Bill Clinton is seen as the baby-boomer irresponsible draft dodger than the Silent and Greatest generations did not like and that millennials mock as “Ok Boomer”. Um, is he really seen as more of a draft dodger than Trump? That must take some cognitive dissonance. Pretty sure millennials would say OK boomer to Trump too. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/31 "2019-12-18T00:42:33Z")
Pro athletes are vastly more apt to be republicans, even black ones. Got to learn to live with that. We don’t need them to think very deeply, and maybe they will forget to vote. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/32 "2019-12-18T01:32:25Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Not all of the players from MLB, NHL and NFL were present during Tumpy Wumpy’s reign. Even pukehead Roger Clemens refused to visit Obama. Roger Clemens retired before Barack Obama was President, and won his second and last World Series when CLINTON was President, so maybe you meant Clinton? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/33 "2019-12-18T07:51:40Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Donald Trump probably became the first president to wade into cultural tensions with sports, particularly the National Basketball Association (NBA), arguably the world’s largest sport next to international soccer. > > The black-majority NBA and Trump has a strained relationship. > > They represent in the eyes of white America, the 88% of black voters that supported Democrat Hillary Clinton over Trump in 2016. > > NHL, MLB, NFL champions attend the White House under Trump; NBA does not. > > Why is that? > > Kurt Suzuki and Ryan Zimmerman of the Washington Nationals showed that they are rich-Trump supporting Americans this week when Trump quickly invited the 2019 World Series champs to the White House this week. They had a World Series in 2019? Huh. Can’t see the point, when the Dodgers don’t win the NL pennant, but you do you. MLB. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104/34 "2019-12-18T07:59:54Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > . > > What’s surprising is Boris Johnson being booed at a cricket match in 2018. Cricket is mostly small-c conservative and the crowds are not generally rowdy. Errr, what? The stereotypical cricket fan is either a working class northerner or an Asian, neither group is likely to be a fan of Boris. And the National front used to appear at matches and give a hard time to Black and Asian players. The difference was that at the Cricket, the police was likely to actually take action. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/presidents-and-sports/843104.md?page=1)