# Pretentious Art Rock of the 70s

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 2, 2001, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380 "2001-09-02T03:54:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/41 "2015-06-07T23:10:19Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Disregarding the word “crap”, I should invest you with one fact: it behooves - no, it is MANDITORY that a Prog Masterman be fluent in all ancillary genres: specifically classical musics and fusion.  
> Certain things like hiphoppery and country are so far removed from prog as to set the Masterman free of the obligation to learn their filth.
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> My collection is vast on electronic music, folk, folkrock as well as aforementioned.

Yeah, sounds like you listen to some of the same crap as I do. Just not as diverse a list. 😉

However, I was thinking about how 1976 was nearly forty years ago, and how much your, um, enthusiasm reminds me of the Jazz purists of my childhood, arguing the relative merits of Louis Armstrong and King Oliver. Made a guy want to strangle some hepcats, it did. However, you have shown you have a sense of humor, so you may stay.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/42 "2015-06-07T23:11:57Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I’m a fan of _The Zombies_, but they are more pop than prog. Fuck I hate old threads.

Then you should talk about Argent. Rod had some pretentious tendencies.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/43 "2015-06-07T23:18:23Z")

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Pretentious is caring about Prog Rock 35 years after the fact. 😉

Just to re-establish my cred, I will remind all here (and inform our zombie resurrector) that I once played with Annie Haslam’s toes while she sang “Forever Changing.”

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/44 "2015-06-07T23:27:13Z")

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I hate you.

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/45 "2015-06-07T23:28:13Z")

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Since since so many are all fixated on the “P” word, I would like to hear your interpertations.

Serious ones.

Something that is slapped-together cannot be pretentious, right?

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**Author:** ![Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/43a26b/32.png) [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallace_The_Lad)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/46 "2015-06-07T23:39:09Z")

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“Pretension” is one of those words that somehow is often mis-understood; taken to be something it isn’t, or simply having too many varied interpertations.  
A dandy of this type of multi-understood word is “decadence”.  
(I highly recommend you look up the book Decadence by Richard Gilman.)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/47 "2015-06-07T23:51:48Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Something that is slapped-together cannot be pretentious, right?

Well, obviously, when we are talking about Art Rock. There are so many layers and the technology made it a pain to put them together. And then there was the competition to see which band could take the longest in the studio for their next album, for the sake of taking the longest.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretentious-art-rock-of-the-70s/79380/48 "2015-06-08T04:03:06Z")

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> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> I’m not holding my breath.
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> He likely still rates Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Tool,Mars Volta,Dream Theatre,Rush…ad nauseum,high on the “prog” totem.
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> As do you and the remainder of this forum.

> [@Wallace\_The\_Lad](#):
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> Your knowledge of prog then is rudimentary.

Welcome to the SDMB, just letting you know, in case you don’t already, that overly snarky posts toward other members here are frowned upon, so try your best to avoid them unless you’re in the BBQ Pit.

That being said, I’m closing this thread as it was a 14 year old one. If you really all want to talk about the OP more or, rather, discuss what prog is or isn’t, feel free to make a new thread.

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