# Pretty lady Dopers, is it a always a benefit, or sometimes a burden?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 7, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890 "2013-07-07T20:58:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/1 "2013-07-07T20:58:01Z")

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Do you use it your advantage deliberately sometimes? Does it seem like you have a “Bother Me” sign over your head? Do you routinely catch stares and leers?

I ask because I’ve been trying very hard to see if this woman in church is wearing a wedding ring. I think I got caught staring, and now I’m probably the creep, because she has something in that position, though there’s no guy looking attached.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/2 "2013-07-07T21:02:22Z")

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According to this article [“‘There are downsides to looking this pretty’: Why women hate me for being beautiful”](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-beautiful.html) there are burdens with beauty.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/3 "2013-07-07T21:49:51Z")

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Yes, I’ve seen that. She got pretty attacked for that, as I recall. That doesn’t mean it’s untrue.

I was also watching a guy at another meeting today switch seats at the break and sit near one of the more attractive women in the room. I’m sure she noticed, as he wasn’t there before.

I’d rather also get some personal input from the womens.

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**Author:** ![Glazer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a88e57/32.png) [@Glazer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glazer)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/4 "2013-07-07T21:54:07Z")

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Whenever you get caught looking. Look her in the eyes and smile. Who knows she may smile back.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/5 "2013-07-07T22:35:21Z")

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The other trouble is that there doesn’t seem to be a standard diamond engagement ring, and some of your more “dedicated” church women will wear a fake wedding ring just to put off the guys they don’t want to hear from and don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/6 "2013-07-07T23:25:15Z")

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The problem is any female doper who posts in this thread will end up being accused of stealth bragging.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/7 "2013-07-07T23:38:32Z")

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Yeah, I thought of that. The other problem is that throwaway or sock puppet accounts can’t be used here, which gives Reddit a greater possibility for anonymity for things like this.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/8 "2013-07-07T23:46:48Z")

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> [@Glazer](#):
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> Whenever you get caught looking. Look her in the eyes and smile. Who knows she may smile back.

As [Herb Caen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Caen) once put it: “I smiled at a pretty girl today and she smiled back. That feels better than laughing out loud!”

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/9 "2013-07-08T02:39:56Z")

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I’m not an attractive woman, but I would ‘assume’ it feels similar to being a wealthy man surrounded by gold diggers. On one hand you want people to like you, but there is a fine line between having bait and knowing people want to use you for it and don’t care about you as a person.

You also have to take into account the negative effect it can have on the woman w/o her knowing. She could end up quite a cunt if guys are always bending over for her. I’ve seen that happen.

Again, any women who post in this thread are probably going to be accused of stealth bragging. But I’d like to hear some input.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/10 "2013-07-08T17:54:44Z")

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Awaiting the inevitable arrival of the Dope’s sexiest lady. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/11 "2013-07-08T18:18:08Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Awaiting the inevitable arrival of the Dope’s sexiest lady. :rolleyes:

But you’re already here!

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/12 "2013-07-08T18:22:02Z")

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> [@Cardinal](#):
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> The other trouble is that there doesn’t seem to be a standard diamond engagement ring, and some of your more “dedicated” church women will wear a fake wedding ring just to put off the guys they don’t want to hear from and don’t know.

If she’s wearing a wedding band either because she’s married or to discourage unwanted attention, why push it?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/13 "2013-07-08T18:29:19Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The problem is any female doper who posts in this thread will end up being accused of stealth bragging.

With subsequent inquiries into the current state of her well-being.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/14 "2013-07-08T18:32:08Z")

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> [@Glazer](#):
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> Whenever you get caught looking. Look her in the eyes and smile. Who knows she may smile back.

And if she doesn’t, keep smiling and \*do not \*break eye contact.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/15 "2013-07-08T18:41:59Z")

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> [@Glazer](#):
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> Whenever you get caught looking. Look her in the eyes and smile. Who knows she may smile back.

And if she does, slowly lick your left, then your right eyebrow.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/16 "2013-07-08T18:46:46Z")

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Every beautiful woman I know was once a young innocent girl, who’s looks drew unwanted attention from men old enough to know better and outright creeps. Definite downside I’d say.

Nothing comes without a cost in my experience.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/17 "2013-07-08T18:55:34Z")

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> [@Troppus](#):
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> If she’s wearing a wedding band either because she’s married or to discourage unwanted attention, why push it?

Seriously. Duh x 1,000.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/18 "2013-07-08T19:03:17Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> And if she does, slowly lick your left, then your right eyebrow.

I no longer use Lik-N-Stik eyebrows. It’s easier just to draw them on.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/19 "2013-07-08T19:09:31Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> According to this article [“‘There are downsides to looking this pretty’: Why women hate me for being beautiful”](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-beautiful.html) there are burdens with beauty.

Well, on a scale of one to ten (ten highest) I’d give her a five. Attractive? yes. Beautiful? No. I wouldn’t give her a second glance on the beauty scale.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pretty-lady-dopers-is-it-a-always-a-benefit-or-sometimes-a-burden/662890/20 "2013-07-08T19:43:56Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> But you’re already here!

Aww…🙂

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