# Priest caught having sex with 2 women in church **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 9, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574 "2020-10-09T16:29:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/81 "2020-10-13T21:56:09Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If that outcome was a predictable consequence for the priest’s actions _if caught_ , it amounts to malicious mischief or some sort of vandalism: willfully damaging the goods of another. I seem to recall that one of the women made a comment on social media that she was going to _defile a house of God_ - that speaks to intent and foreknowledge of the consequences of such an action. Bit of a slam-dunk to me … ---
**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/82 "2020-10-14T01:56:19Z")
I live not too far from Pearl River. As I understand it, all the video, including that of the alert citizen who called the police, was confiscated by the police. Given the reputation of that police force, I won’t be surprised to see the videos up on the internet in a few days or weeks. But yeah, messing around with young boys is one thing, but messing with the alter in a small town church in the deep south, I don’t know what will happen. As has been pointed out by the priest’s lawyer, no crime has been committed. But if the local DA (who is currently running for re-election) even hints at going easy on these three-the alter wouldn’t be the only thing burned down. And the priest had better not think about a jury trial. 🙂 Nobody around here is laughing about this one. The next church over lost a priest at the same time because he admitted messing around with a young boy about 10 years ago. That is just another sad state of affairs. People are used to that kind of thing. But the Pearl River incident, that struck a nerve. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/83 "2020-10-14T03:47:41Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > . . . I did that and is then forced to repaint. Repaint, ye sinner! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/84 "2020-10-14T08:48:40Z")
I just need to say this: it’s “alt **a** r”. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/85 "2020-10-14T10:21:48Z")
As in the Victorian-era joke, that the three words uppermost in the mind of the bride as she enters the church for her wedding are: Aisle Altar Hymn ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/86 "2020-10-14T11:16:57Z")
> [@si\_blakely](#): > > > [@LSLGuy](#): > > > > If that outcome was a predictable consequence for the priest’s actions _if caught_ , it amounts to malicious mischief or some sort of vandalism: willfully damaging the goods of another. > > I seem to recall that one of the women made a comment on social media that she was going to _defile a house of God_ - that speaks to intent and foreknowledge of the consequences of such an action. > > Bit of a slam-dunk to me … “Defilement” means loss of sanctity. Your slam-dunk requires proof that an otherwise-ordinary object once possessed factual sanctity, which has been harmed by the accused actions. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/87 "2020-10-14T11:59:09Z")
Perhaps. But I doubt it. If the diocese was “forced” by their own internal policies to replace it, that’s no different than my example of the highway department being “forced” to overpaint my graffiti by their policy. The fact that must be established in secular court is that the diocese did replace the altar at some expense and the need for that was a direct consequence of the priest’s actions. The religious aspect of sanctity or defilement is IMO not relevant to the secular vandalism charge. Although I agree completely with you that the whole concept of religion is nonsense, and that proving sanctity in a secular court is a fundamental category error akin to proving the inherent color of a math formula. I also think that, ref the comments of our own almost-on-scene reporter @rbroome above, the local courts near Pearl River will have no trouble fully including religious dogma in their decision-making without the slightest evidence of awareness of the constitutional issues involved. ---
**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/88 "2020-10-15T01:37:42Z")
Oops! My (and my spell checker’s) mistake. Altar it is. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/89 "2020-10-15T04:22:11Z")
So, it _wasn’t_ an altarnate spelling? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/90 "2020-10-15T15:57:27Z")
at least one of the women was from out of state. Did he pay travel costs too? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/91 "2020-10-15T18:16:27Z")
Bishop takes Queen _and_ Pawn? Clearly against the rules. Next on the docket: _The Steeple_ Versus _Father Two-Time_. I don’t think he was nave, given two chancels and trying to make the Host of them. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/92 "2020-10-15T18:26:50Z")
It is also possible the local stores were sold out of Lysol wipes. These are challenging times for everybody. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/93 "2020-10-15T19:56:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The priest was lucky to find two women willing to take it in the apse. To merge with a perennially popular topic, “That would be the apse, Bob”. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/94 "2020-10-15T22:57:06Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > > [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > > > At least they were over 18 and not boys. > > As both partners were _women_, are you saying at least they were over 18 and not male? Because I don’t see why it’s worse if they’re male. His post said “boys” not “males”. I took that to mean differentiating between adult women & underage boys. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/95 "2020-10-16T07:04:19Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Bishop takes Queen _and_ Pawn? “Bishop takes Porn”, surely? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/96 "2020-10-16T08:03:29Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If the diocese was “forced” by their own internal policies to replace it, that’s no different than my example of the highway department being “forced” to overpaint my graffiti by their policy. > > The fact that must be established in secular court is that the diocese did replace the altar at some expense and the need for that was a direct consequence of the priest’s actions. The religious aspect of sanctity or defilement is IMO not relevant to the secular vandalism charge. There was a vehicular manslaughter case in (IIRC) Southern Ca. some years ago (mid-1990’s?): A drunk driver nearly killed a pedestrian who was a Jehova’s Witness. The doctors said she needed blood to survive. The victim adamantly refused blood, and did in fact die. Was the driver guilty of vehicular manslaughter? The defense argued that the victim could have survived, but had declined to receive medical treatment that could have saved her, and the drunk driver could not be held responsible for that. The prosecution argued that the victim’s right to her religions convictions must be respected, and that cases like this must follow the legal dictum “You takes them as you find them”. The jury convicted the driver of vehicular manslaughter. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/97 "2020-10-16T08:09:11Z")
ETA: Aha! I found a link: > **[DRIVER FOUND GUILTY DESPITE BLOOD REFUSAL/ A DRUNKEN DRIVER WHO FACED MURDER...](https://greensboro.com/driver-found-guilty-despite-blood-refusal-a-drunken-driver-who-faced-murder-charges-was-convicted/article_74c04b18-bf24-5b00-b8ba-2e43b573c142.html)** > > In a trial that sounded like something thought up for a law school class, a drunken driver was convicted of manslaughter and not murder Friday in the case of a ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/98 "2020-10-16T14:19:45Z")
Very interesting. And wow is that a badly written article from AP. So in relatively secular SoCal, the jury went with the lesser offense, thereby _implying_ the decedent contributed at least some to her demise. Which is probably factually accurate, though how much is “some” is certainly debatable even by the medical experts who were treating her. Good bet therefore that in Pearl River LA the jury (or a judge) would find the diocese justified in replacing the altar. > [@Senegoid](#): > > a Jehova’s Witness I think that’s spelled “Jehovah’s” with an “h”. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/99 "2020-10-16T15:58:04Z")
Queen takes Bishop, threatening Porn? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574/100 "2020-10-17T04:35:19Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > So in relatively secular SoCal, the jury went with the lesser offense, thereby _implying_ the decedent contributed at least some to her demise. Which is probably factually accurate, though how much is “some” is certainly debatable even by the medical experts who were treating her. I remember the case just a little differently (possibly inaccurately?), and I didn’t care enough to read additional articles on it. The case did make headlines back then. Here’s how I think I remember it: The drunk driver was definitely drunk and caused great bodily injury. That much was never in dispute. But I recall the case being that he should be found guilty of some-degree-of-homicide versus not-guilty-of-homicide. (Femicide?) I didn’t recall there being a choice among various-degrees-of-homicide. Details! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574.md?page=6)