# Prime Ministers go to Kyiv. Crazy, dangerous move **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [March 15, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prime-ministers-go-to-kyiv-crazy-dangerous-move/961102 "2022-03-15T12:58:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ranch\_Dip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranch_dip/32/5238_2.png) [@Ranch\_Dip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranch_Dip)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prime-ministers-go-to-kyiv-crazy-dangerous-move/961102/61 "2022-03-17T19:19:34Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > You sure about that? They used to be when it was USSR, maybe not now. But my point that it is a different place still stands. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prime-ministers-go-to-kyiv-crazy-dangerous-move/961102/62 "2022-03-17T19:27:11Z")
But it isn’t a different place. It’s the same city, and the west has always spelled it Kiev. In Ukrainian it’s Kyiv. Not two different places though. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prime-ministers-go-to-kyiv-crazy-dangerous-move/961102/63 "2022-03-17T19:56:18Z")
“Always” minus a few years. I’ve seen it as Kyiv for several years now. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prime-ministers-go-to-kyiv-crazy-dangerous-move/961102/64 "2022-03-17T20:14:59Z")
Ки́їв, not Киев Offician Ukrainian campaign to spell it Kyiv in languages using the Latin alphabet: > **[KyivNotKiev](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev)** > > KyivNotKiev is an online campaign to persuade English-language media and organizations to exclusively use Kyiv (derived from the Ukrainian-language 'Київ') instead of Kiev (derived from the Russian-language 'Киев') as the name of the Ukrainian capital. It was started on 2 October 2018 by the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) and StratCom Ukraine, and it is run by the MFA's Department of Public Diplomacy. > It is part of the wider CorrectUA campaign, which intends to internationally as... > [@](#): > > One of the objectives of the campaign was to convince international airports around the world to switch from _Kiev_ to _Kyiv_ . Previously, most airports refused to do so, saying that in lists of the [International Air Transport Association](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Air_Transport_Association) (IATA) and [International Civil Aviation Organization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization) (ICAO) the name _Kiev_ was specified. However, in October 2019, IATA, following the decision of the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, switched to _Kyiv_ . Since the campaign’s launch, 63 airports and 3 airlines worldwide (as of January 2020) have begun using the name _Kyiv_ , even before this ‘Kyiv’ was adopted by IATA. Among them are [Toronto Pearson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Pearson_International_Airport), [Luton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton_Airport), [Manchester](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Airport), [Frankfurt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_Airport), and [Josep Tarradellas Barcelona–El Prat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Tarradellas_Barcelona%E2%80%93El_Prat_Airport).[[17]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev#cite_note-bbc-17) > > In September 2020, the [English Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia) switched from using Kiev to Kyiv. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prime-ministers-go-to-kyiv-crazy-dangerous-move/961102.md?page=3)