# Primetime Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067 "2008-10-29T12:38:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/41 "2008-10-30T00:35:11Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I have an advance copy of his speech. Here’s an excerpt: > > “Hope. Change. Hopey-hopey-change-change. Changey-hopey. Bush is evil. Hopey-changey-changey-hopey. Redistribute the wealth. Changey-changey-hopey-hopey. Bush is still evil.” > > Etc. ad nauseam. No redistribute the wealth, and not a mention of Bush or McCain. Sure, lots of hope and change, but mostly details about his program, discussion of real problems from real Americans, and biographical stuff. Jeanne Dixon and Sylvia Browne ask that you turn in your psychic credentials. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/42 "2008-10-30T01:00:26Z")
For those those like me lacking TV, the campaign also put it up on [YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA). The last bit, at the rally in Florida, is available on Obama’s website. Oddly, I couldn’t find the full televised video on the campaign site, though. I may have just overlooked it. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/43 "2008-10-30T01:11:53Z")
> [@choie](#): > > No redistribute the wealth, and not a mention of Bush or McCain. Sure, lots of hope and change, but mostly details about his program, discussion of real problems from real Americans, and biographical stuff. > > Jeanne Dixon and Sylvia Browne ask that you turn in your psychic credentials. Pffft. We’re lucky if **Clothahump** knows what already happened, let alone what will. Here’s McCain, **Clothy** : “Grump. Grump. Grumpety-grump. ‘Obama’ means ‘terrorist’ in Swahili. Rich people are society-loving angels, poor people are leeching devils. Same old, same old, same old. Change is evil. Stay the same. Status quo. I remember when Lincoln stood on this very stage. I’m OOOOOLD! And I’m making horrible, lousy decisions! Elect me president!” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/44 "2008-10-30T01:23:25Z")
That was well done, despite my fears I think he hit at least a double with his ad. I have a feeling he will see a small boost in key states like Florida. He does need to convince **Clothahump** , he need to convince the retirees on the fence of Florida and the working class of the rust belt. I think he probably swayed a few. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/45 "2008-10-30T01:26:41Z")
Somehow I suspect that **Clothahump** will not be convinced. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/46 "2008-10-30T01:28:12Z")
One thing that bumped me a bit was when they highlighted the black couple in Ohio, the most poignant part of the whole 30 minutes IMHO, they didn’t follow it up with an explanation of how he’d be addressing that problem in policy. They started right off talking about some company in Seattle and the efforts to go green. What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/47 "2008-10-30T01:31:29Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > Somehow I suspect that **Clothahump** will not be convinced. Damn, I lost my not. I thought I typed, “he does \*\*not \*\*need to convince” ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/48 "2008-10-30T01:42:16Z")
I liked it. I missed the first 2 minutes of it. But I liked that he had governors talking about him, not just Bill and Hill. I don’t think it’ll make one wit o’ difference. Looking forward to Daily Show! And I have to get up at 0400 and I’m staying up to watch it. I’m nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/49 "2008-10-30T05:37:21Z")
_(Also posted in the GD “Obama’s infomercial” thread)_ Wow. Just… wow. Well-produced, moving, detailed and eloquent. Amber waves of grain, cute kids, plenty of American flags, and the candidate telling just what he hopes to do. The footage of people looking at Obama, shaking his hand and hugging him at rallies actually brought a little tear to my eye. And those were some powerful stories about people who need someone in Washington looking out for them. I realized (for the first time, deep down, believe it or not) that I genuinely admire and respect Obama, and want so much for him to be elected and then to succeed in the White House. I believe more and more that he has the intellect, the temperament, the self-discipline and the political skills to be a truly great president. There will be disappointments and disagreements aplenty later, I’m sure - how could there not, given the many difficult decisions that the next president will have to make? - but right now I’m feeling very happy about this candidate, this election and this moment in my beloved country’s history. ---
**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/50 "2008-10-30T13:43:05Z")
I was busy and the Tivo was already recording _Ghost Hunters_ for Mrs. Chef, so I missed out on Obama’s TV thing. Did anybody watch it? Care to spoil it for me? ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/51 "2008-10-30T13:51:31Z")
Post 92 in this thread starts right when the infomercial started. > **[Obama's infomercial](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=490150)** > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081029/pl\_politico/15056;\_ylt=AvUu\_o3ArZxWj9QFwuUqKHkDW7oF Does anybody else feel a bit uncomfortable with this? He’s got most of the broadcast stations, minus ABC on board for a 30 minute infomercial. McCain... ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/52 "2008-10-30T14:03:21Z")
You can [watch it here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA). His campaign posted it to YouTube. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/53 "2008-10-30T14:08:13Z")
I think you were looking for this thread: [Primetime Obama](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=490100) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/54 "2008-10-30T14:33:53Z")
Can you spoil a political ad? 😉 Anyway I’ve merged **Chef Troy** ’s new thread into this one. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/55 "2008-10-30T14:51:29Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Can you spoil a political ad? 😉 The black guy is running for president! ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/56 "2008-10-30T15:05:33Z")
Forget the election, I want to see a [DANCE OFF!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSJIORWj4tw) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/57 "2008-10-30T15:21:33Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > The black guy is running for president! And what’s more, it looks like he just might win! ---
**Author:** ![Atomicflea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Atomicflea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomicflea)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/58 "2008-10-30T15:40:57Z")
You know, at the beginning of all of this, I was an Edwards gal. I read a position paper of his and it just moved me. I had rooted for him in the previous primary, and was dispappointed he didn’t win. I voted for Kerry and Gore because they were the Democratic nominees, and I voted for Clinton because I thought he was canny and likeable and knew what to do and when to do it. As I watched this last night, I tried to define what it was that really motivated me to work for this man, to talk him up to my friends, to give him money, and ultimately entrust him with directing my country’s future, and it boiled down to this: I think he’s a decent human being with noble interests, and I haven’t been able to think that about a politician for a long time. I don’t think he’s perfect by any means, but he gives his best effort and is gracious in both victory and defeat, he loves his wife and is true to her, and you can see on his face and hers that they are honestly humbled and moved and yet respectful of their purpose. I felt like folks must have felt when they heard Lincoln speak. Last night I’m sort of ashamed to say I burst into tears at the thought that something could happen to him, and I hope he’s well watched over and we have a chance to see if his promise can have a chance to blossom. I came in to work today and several of my co-workers said that that they felt sad watching him, because they felt that someone would cut him down, and even if elected, he would never have a chance to serve. I told my husband last night that I have a “terrible hope” that he gets elected, because I think it would be wonderful for the nation, but honestly makes me fear for him as an individual and for his family. Anyone else feel this way, or am I alone here? Sorry for the bummer, but maybe it’s bred into me as a minority that all this goodwill can’t last. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/59 "2008-10-30T16:28:01Z")
I’ve had the same thought. I’m afraid that Obama, as a black man and a liberal, blasted in this campaign as a socialist, friend to terrorists, secret Muslim, etc., is going to be particularly at risk of assassination. I’ve even prayed for him. ---
**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067/60 "2008-10-30T17:38:50Z")
I worry about Obama too. I’ve never been into politics; this is my first election. But I admire and respect Obama, and I do have a terrible hope that he wins. If he succeeds in winning the election, I think he stands a chance at being the greatest president in a very long time. That said, the irrational side of my brain is _freaking out_ with worry that something bad will happen to him or his family. I would pray for him, but somehow it seems that the Antichrist wouldn’t need my prayers. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/primetime-obama/470067.md?page=4)