# "Prince Charles and Camilla, sittin' in a tree . . . " **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 17, 2001, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718 "2001-08-17T13:14:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/21 "2001-08-17T15:02:03Z")
“I also wonder, if he were to hit the bulls eye twice in one evening, how that might be resolved Constitutionally.” —Goodness, I’m sure that situation has ummm, “come up” before. Isn’t England almost entirely populated by the illegitimate offspring of one of the Georges? George IV, I think? ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/22 "2001-08-17T15:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > **"The Spectator" in London had a story yesterday saying that Queen Eliz. has finally decided she must eventually, grudgingly, give her OK to Charles and Camilla getting married—though they HAVE to wait till the Queen Mum dies (no, this was not explicitly stated!) and it can’t be next year, which will be Eliz.'s Diamond Jubilee.** You need to be a ‘Royal Watcher’ in order to fully understand the implications of this news. I know that Queen Elizabeth intends to abdicate shortly after her Golden Jubilee next year. She would go now, but she’s decided to hang on for all the presents which will come her way in the JubileeFest. Prince Ping-Pong-Paddle-Ears cannot then marry Horse-Face because people (me) who can stomach her as Princess PPPE will not entertain her as Queen PPPE-HF. King PPPE (The First) will abdicate to marry HF leaving William on The Throne. William, wishing to marry at least two Females With Patagonian Associations because he can’t make up his mind, also abdicates in order to move to Utah. Of course, three abdications and your out so the Royal Family will be sold at a discount to the US. This will leave the front pages of the British Press free to concentrate on more important matters like me. Yours sincerely Tony Blair (There’s a smile on my face but it’s only there just to fool the public) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/23 "2001-08-17T15:19:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rachelle \* > \*\*I heard on the news this morning that it’s ok for Charles to remarry because his ex-wife is dead but Camilla’s ex-husband is still alive and the church won’t recognize the marriage or something. There’s also talk of the church changing that _just so_ Charles and Camilla can get married. \*\* Remarriage of divorcees is allowed by the Church of England provided the divorce is complete in the civil sense, any children are properly provided for, the couple’s bishop gives permission, and they can find a priest who’ll perform the ceremony. I wouldn’t imagine Bigears and Horseface would have any problems. It is a bit of a hot-button issue in the CoE, though, with one side pressing for relaxation of the rules, while the traditionalists scream about Undermining the Sanctity of Marriage… my sister and her husband, both on the ultra-conservative wing of the CoE, had to have a civil ceremony because he was divorced, and it would Violate Their Consciences to get married in church. Didn’t stop them going straight from the registry office to Newcastle Cathedral and getting their union blessed in style (full bells and smells, all the way). ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/24 "2001-08-17T15:23:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Schadenfreude \* > \*\* > Of course, three abdications and your out so the Royal Family will be sold at a discount to the US. \*\* I’d like to start the bidding at $50.00. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/25 "2001-08-17T15:32:49Z")
When a soon to be leader has to ask his mum for permission to marry someone, it makes me happy to be in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/26 "2001-08-17T15:33:42Z")
What I find interesting is that the Americans care more about the comings and goings of the various royals then those of us that they nominally have dominion over…Diana was a much bigger star in America then elsewhere…and nobody really cares about Jughead and Ms. Ed in Canada except for a few hold outs in the monarchist league… Keith ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/27 "2001-08-17T15:40:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Trion \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Schadenfreude \* > > \*\* > > Of course, three abdications and your out so the Royal Family will be sold at a discount to the US. \*\* > > I’d like to start the bidding at $50.00. \*\* I see. A pre-emptive strike to price possible counter-bidders out of the market. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/28 "2001-08-17T15:40:21Z")
I think one reason us Yanks enjoy frothing over the British Royals is that it doesn’t effect us in the slightest. We have no reason to care one way or the other, so we can sit back and comfortably watch the soap opera without thinking about taxes or constitutions or anything. By the by, I don’t think Camilla will ever becaome Queen—it would be a morganic marriage, so she would have no title. And why is everyone making fun of her appearance? She’s a perfectly presentable middle-aged woman, well-dressed and well-groomed (and let’s have no cracks about horse-grooming, please!). I never thought Diana all that pretty, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/29 "2001-08-17T15:43:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Schadenfreude \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Trion \* > > \*\* > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Schadenfreude \* > > > \*\* > > > Of course, three abdications and your out so the Royal Family will be sold at a discount to the US. \*\* > > > > I’d like to start the bidding at $50.00. \*\* > > I see. A pre-emptive strike to price possible counter-bidders out of the market. \*\* Exactly. This is a side business with me. I purchase outdated monarchies, dismantle them and sell the parts for a profit. ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/30 "2001-08-17T16:07:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > Isn’t England almost entirely populated by the illegitimate offspring of one of the Georges? George IV, I think? \*\* That would explain rather a lot. It’s actually very kind of you to anoint me with Regal Heritage, I’m leafing through Burke’s Peerage and packing up my bags as we speak. I think a room overlooking Windsor Great Park might suit my tastes. In fact, I’ve always rather fancied Boudica, warrior Queen of the Icini and I’m now wondering if we’re related – that’s an important consideration to us Royals, don’t you know. Got to go, I think my Footmen have arrived for the bags… ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/31 "2001-08-17T16:23:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > \*\*Isn’t England almost entirely populated by the illegitimate offspring of one of the Georges? George IV, I think? \*\* If this is true we’re all German! ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/32 "2001-08-17T16:35:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > If this is true we’re all German! \*\* As long as you aren’t uninspiring. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/33 "2001-08-17T18:31:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Steve Wright \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Rachelle \* > > I heard on the news this morning that it’s ok for Charles to remarry because his ex-wife is dead but Camilla’s ex-husband is still alive and the church won’t recognize the marriage or something. There’s also talk of the church changing that _just so_ Charles and Camilla can get married. > > Remarriage of divorcees is allowed by the Church of England provided the divorce is complete in the civil sense, any children are properly provided for, the couple’s bishop gives permission, and they can find a priest who’ll perform the ceremony. I wouldn’t imagine Bigears and Horseface would have any problems. If that’s the case, then why wasn’t poor Princess Margaret allowed to marry Pete Townsend when he divorced his wife? Her family was going to allow it, but the church forbade it. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/34 "2001-08-17T20:32:27Z")
They should all get together in a big family meeting, the drunks, the racists, the adulterers, the divorcees and bomb the bloody lot of them into oblivion and them rent out rooms in Buck house to single teenage mums and Asylum seekers. At least the stae handouts would probably be less. Should give us something to talk about for a few weeks until the next “Big Brother meets East Enders on a remote desert Island with a few Neighbors from hell” to liven the series up a bit. Oh and they should put Anne Robinson on there too. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2001, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/35 "2001-08-17T23:17:24Z")
They must give Camillia a new title, one not quite ‘queen’ & not quite ‘the other woman’ something inbetween. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2001, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/36 "2001-08-18T01:06:07Z")
I bid $50.05 ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/37 "2001-08-18T02:00:20Z")
Wasn’t it founded so that Henry VIII could get married after a divorce, because the Catholic Church basically said “Remarry? Here? Riiiiiiiiiight, Hank. NOT!” If that’s the case, why would they have any qualms at all regarding second marriages, other than the divorce being final? If that’s not the case, someone please set me straight. 😃 [sub]and now the tampon thing is going to give me nightmares…again…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2001, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/38 "2001-08-18T02:27:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Wasn’t it founded so that Henry VIII could get married after a divorce, because the Catholic Church basically said “Remarry? Here? Riiiiiiiiiight, Hank. NOT!” That’s avoiding the political aspects, and somewhat misstating the situation. Henry wanted an annulment on the grounds that the Pope never should have granted him permission to marry (IIRC) his brother’s widow, and as evidence that God was opposed to it, pointed out that they didn’t have any children. The Pope, I believe, was more concerned with keeping England allied with Spain, among other things, and refused. Also, there was some disagreement between the two as to how much control the Pope had over the Church in England. Rather an interesting story, but it so often gets reduced to “Henry broke with the Church so he could divorce.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2001, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/39 "2001-08-18T05:31:28Z")
**Guinastasia** and **Eve,** why are you assuming that the marriage would be morganic? Has there been some announcement to that effect? ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2001, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-camilla-sittin-in-a-tree/76718/40 "2001-08-18T06:14:49Z")
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