# Prince Charles And His Medals

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 30, 2004, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628 "2004-07-30T18:53:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/21 "2004-07-31T06:52:48Z")

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> [@UncleBill](#):
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> While I am sure he was coddled, was he not a helicopter pilot with the Royal Navy?

No , his Brother Andrew was the chopper pilot in the Falklands campaign

Charles flew F-4 phantoms for the RN

Declan

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**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/22 "2004-07-31T10:51:12Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> No , his Brother Andrew was the chopper pilot in the Falklands campaign
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> Charles flew F-4 phantoms for the RN
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> Declan

I understood he Captained a frigate - mainly on fisheries protection duties…

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/23 "2004-07-31T10:59:19Z")

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Charlie deserved at least some of the medals for putting up with Her Royal Blonde Nuttiness.

Camilla might not be pretty but Charlie never wanted to be Diana’s tampon. 😃

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**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/24 "2004-07-31T11:00:50Z")

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I am surprised he wasn’t awarded the **Supreme and Noble Order of the Codfish** to add to his vast collection.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/25 "2004-07-31T11:11:27Z")

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I’m more suprised that he wasn’t awarded the **High order of the tampon wannabe**.

Good luck to him. He should have married Camilla in the first place.

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**Author:** ![legion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@legion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legion)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/26 "2004-07-31T13:45:51Z")

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> [@Meurglys](#):
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> I understood he Captained a frigate - mainly on fisheries protection duties…

[Jet pilot, helicoptor pilot and commander of a coastal mine hunter.](http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page460.asp)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/27 "2004-07-31T19:51:16Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> Charlie deserved at least some of the medals for putting up with Her Royal Blonde Nuttiness.
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> Camilla might not be pretty but Charlie never wanted to be Diana’s tampon. 😃

I think you are confused.

Charles was born into wealth and power, got into a top university with low grades, had his pick of military jobs and committed adultery before, during and after his marriage. Apparently this makes him fit to be the future automatic Head of the Church of England.

Diana sponsored charities such as removing land mines and was prepared to shake the hand of an AIDS patient.

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**Author:** ![matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@matt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/28 "2004-07-31T21:19:43Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Charles was born into wealth and power, got into a top university with low grades, had his pick of military jobs and committed adultery before, during and after his marriage. Apparently this makes him fit to be the future automatic Head of the Church of England.

Given the nature of the founder of the Church of England, I’d say he’s on the right track but has barely got started. Now, if he’d had Diana _beheaded…_

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/29 "2004-07-31T22:07:12Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> I think you are confused.
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> Charles was born into wealth and power, got into a top university with low grades, had his pick of military jobs and committed adultery before, during and after his marriage. Apparently this makes him fit to be the future automatic Head of the Church of England.
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> Diana sponsored charities such as removing land mines and was prepared to shake the hand of an AIDS patient.

He does as much for charity as she did but he has a nose and sticky out ears. Blondey was just more popular with the press.

[http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/trusts/index.html](http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/trusts/index.html)  
WORKING FOR CHARITY  
In 2004, The Prince of Wales helped to raise, directly or indirectly, around £100 million pounds for charity. He is also President or Patron of more than 360 organisations

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/30 "2004-07-31T22:17:36Z")

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Well, my roast of our own future royal family, the Kerrys, didn’t go so well, it seems, but yeah–same thing. It’s the 21st frickin’ century, for kraissakes, and we’ve still got kings and earls and shit walking around the planet. Fuck that shyte.

Neither Charles nor GWB never deserved to be anything more than a convenience store checkout clerk or Walmart greeter (not to put down such occupations; I’ve done similar jobs), not the pampered bitches they are.

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**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/31 "2004-07-31T23:17:46Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Diana…was prepared to shake the hand of an AIDS patient.

I did that too. Can I have my medal now?

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/32 "2004-07-31T23:38:29Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Diana sponsored charities such as removing land mines and was prepared to shake the hand of an AIDS patient.

I’m pretty certain a large number of us have both given money to charities and shaken the hand of an AIDS patient. IOW, there’s nothing extraordinary in Diana’s actions. If you’ve an issue with the honors granted to Charles, I’m not sure why you think Diana would deserve so much praises.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/33 "2004-08-01T01:03:32Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> No , his Brother Andrew was the chopper pilot in the Falklands campaign
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> Charles flew F-4 phantoms for the RN
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> Declan

The Royal Webmaster needs to be informed of this oversite on [His Large-eared Highness’s page](http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page460.asp). They seem to think he flew with the [845 Naval Air Squadron](http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/814.html), which has been flying helos since 1955 or so.

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**Author:** ![Shrinking\_Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Shrinking\_Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shrinking_Violet)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/34 "2004-08-01T14:53:37Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> IOW, there’s nothing extraordinary in Diana’s actions.

Except that she shook the hands of an AIDS patient _at a time when the population at large still thought it was a dangerous thing to do_, and made it easier for these patients to receive the love and support they need.

Yeah, I’d say that deserved a medal.

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**Author:** ![nonpolar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3da27b/32.png) [@nonpolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonpolar)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/35 "2004-08-01T18:51:17Z")

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French and Russians did the right thing with their blood suckers.

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**Author:** ![nonpolar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3da27b/32.png) [@nonpolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonpolar)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/36 "2004-08-01T18:50:37Z")

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French and Russians did the right thing with their blood suckers.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/37 "2004-08-01T19:15:06Z")

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I’m wondering if the French and Russians did the right thing with their blood suckers?  
(Actually, I prefer the Norwegian model. I used to think the Royals should be put up against the wall, but now I think hey, a lot of British people adore them, they’re a tradition, they’re fairly unique. They just don’t have to be as astonishingly rich and feted as they are. Or if they’re allowed to retain their money and lands, they at least should be paying tax, and not drawing a penny from the taxpayer. I could live with a non-constitutional “cycling monarchy”.)

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**Author:** ![nonpolar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3da27b/32.png) [@nonpolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonpolar)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/38 "2004-08-01T20:33:59Z")

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Royals in UK are the main reason people go there for vacation,without them nobody would go to UK(awfull food,rain,everything is expensive,etc)so let them royal clowns live. 😉  
There are much better places to go for vacation in mainland Europe (france ,spain,  
italy,grece etc).

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/39 "2004-08-01T20:51:28Z")

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> [@Shrinking Violet](#):
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> Except that she shook the hands of an AIDS patient _at a time when the population at large still thought it was a dangerous thing to do_, and made it easier for these patients to receive the love and support they need.
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> Yeah, I’d say that deserved a medal.

The only point was to “pass the message” to the “population at large”. But _she_ knew it wasn’t dangerous. It was only significant because she was famous and it was widely reported. But the action in itself wasn’t heroical or anything, and not exceptionnally praise-worthy. Or else send our way the medals we rightfully deserved too.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-charles-and-his-medals/257628/40 "2004-08-01T21:45:40Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Well, my roast of our own future royal family, the Kerrys, didn’t go so well, it seems, but yeah–same thing. It’s the 21st frickin’ century, for kraissakes, and we’ve still got kings and earls and shit walking around the planet. Fuck that shyte.
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> Neither Charles nor GWB never deserved to be anything more than a convenience store checkout clerk or Walmart greeter (not to put down such occupations; I’ve done similar jobs), not the pampered bitches they are.

So… what you’re saying is that even in a land with no nobility (hell, a land founded on the very premise that nobility should not exist), rich fuck-ups can make it to the top of the ladder.

So, what’s the point in abolishing monarchies, if they’ll just be substituted by pseudo-noble rich families controlling the nation at hand for decades on end?

Personally, I’d rather pay €1 billion per annum in taxes for a harmless and impotent (in the sense of having no real power) royal family, than have to vote for whichever of two fine white gentlemen the lobbies of Big Industry coughs up every four years.

But that’s just me.

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