# Prince Harry and Meghan "Quitting " royal family **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 8, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139 "2020-01-08T20:18:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/141 "2020-01-12T22:28:42Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > [They didn’t.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-markle-leaves-britain-flies-to-canada-to-reunite-with-baby-archie) Harry and Megan took their baby with them when they went to Canada and left him with her friend for a few days (doubtless with a security detail) while she made what she thought would be a quick trip back to Britain. Thanks. That is different than what I had imagined. We never took trips w/o our kids, but I understand many folk do. I thought it odd that the child was left somewhere other than it’s “home” country. In retrospect, I guess it telegraphs their announcement… ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/142 "2020-01-12T22:39:08Z")
IRA was not into suicide bombers , it’s not easy to prevent a suicide bomber. But ISIS , etc guys don’t mind dying for their cause. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/143 "2020-01-13T02:10:57Z")
“Air ye daft?” Any potential IRA suicide bomber. ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/144 "2020-01-13T03:12:02Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > All the Queen’s grandkids don’t have 24/7 security do they? For example Andrew’s daughters and Anne’s children. I recall reading at one point that Andrew had to fund the security details for Beatrice and Eugenie himself. I do think Harry is in a different category, though. He is the son of the future King Charles III, and the only sibling of the king following that. He also served in Afghanistan (however briefly). He is one of the highest value and highest profile targets out there if you are a bad guy looking to attack a symbol of the British government. It is in the public interest to protect him from being abducted or assassinated, because that would be a huge national embarrassment and a potential leverage point. Similar to why American taxpayers keep funding Secret Service protection for ex-presidents and their families. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/145 "2020-01-13T03:17:00Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > “Air ye daft?” Any potential IRA suicide bomber. Atheist Tamil Tigers invented modern suicide bombing. IRA don’t train in Sri Lanka. Ratz. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/146 "2020-01-13T14:38:03Z")
for a short time Congress cut funding for security for ex presidents but they restored it. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/147 "2020-01-13T14:40:09Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > the rumor is Charles only wants William and his family to be front and center with him when he is King. Everybody else is going to get shoved aside. Even before the latest mess Andrew’s daughters were told to get a real job, one of them is married and the other one is marrying this year. It’s more than a rumor. Charlie has said he wants to trim down the royal family in terms both of who does the representation and who gets the allowances. Frankly, such a thing is overdue. As for Harry and Meghan, the media give them a hard time, but it is not unrelated to the fact that Meghan comes across as a not so nice person after all and one who lacks the common touch, not to mention her ostentatious spending. that really ticks off the less affluent. People keep looking to see if she is Wallis Simpson 2.0, and unfortunately there are some analogies. I for one suspect that the dream marriage will end in a nasty divorce within a bout a decade. The two are not really that compatible. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/148 "2020-01-13T14:47:19Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Where does it say they can’t earn money after the change? Everything I see says they “currently” can’t earn money - presumably meaning before they withdraw: > > “In addition, they value the ability to earn a professional income, which in the current structure they are prohibited from doing. For this reason they have made the choice to become members of the Royal Family with financial independence.” > > “Do The Duke and Duchess of Sussex earn income? > No, under the current structure and financing arrangements, they are prohibited from earning any income in any form.” > > It’s clear from the article that they’re saying that as things are now, they can’t earn money, which is one reason why they’re doing this. Curious, since Charlie is also a farmer and sells a line of food products; Duchy Organic. I assume that the royals are not over the moon at the thought of a British duchess acting in a nondescript sitcom or the like, or shilling whatever product takes her fancy and also pays well. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/149 "2020-01-13T14:53:42Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > Atheist Tamil Tigers invented modern suicide bombing. IRA don’t train in Sri Lanka. Ratz. Yes they killed the Indian Prime Minister and 14 other people in 1991 > **[Assassination of Rajiv Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Rajiv_Gandhi)** > > The assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, former Prime Minister of India, occurred as a result of a suicide bombing in Sriperumbudur in Tamil Nadu, India on 21 May 1991. At least 14 others, in addition to Rajiv Gandhi, were killed. It was carried out by 22-year-old Kalaivani Rajaratnam (popularly known by her assumed names Thenmozhi Rajaratnam and Dhanu), a member of the Sri Lankan Tamil banned separatist rebel organization Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). At the time, India had j Subseque... ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/150 "2020-01-13T14:53:54Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > Harry too, though unlike her he has no real money making profession, could surely make a lot of money (relative to the reliable return on the existing $30m) trading on his fame. But that’s the problem they could run into if they aren’t careful about how they do that. The criticism could eventually damage their ‘brand’. This has already been an issue with the Duchess of York being a royal embarrassment. Can’t remember if Prince Andrew also raised royal eyebrows with some his money-making schemes earlier, but at any rate the royal family is playing safe with him in the light of the current allegations. Even though they are only allegations. Regarding security for Harry and Meghan, what would private security cost? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/151 "2020-01-13T15:29:09Z")
For private security they may be able to get a discount because any company they hire would use that contract to drum up more business. There would be no shortage of security firms that would want the business. ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/152 "2020-01-13T15:47:44Z")
> [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > Curious, since Charlie is also a farmer and sells a line of food products; Duchy Organic. Duchy Originals Ltd is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Prince of Wales’s Charitable Foundation and the profits go to charity, not to the Prince’s own expenses. H&M, however, are talking about something that will earn money to pay their own living expenses. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/153 "2020-01-13T15:49:25Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > For private security they may be able to get a discount because any company they hire would use that contract to drum up more business. There would be no shortage of security firms that would want the business. Except that the company providing their security should be discreet enough not to share that information with others. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/154 "2020-01-13T17:07:14Z")
Message from the Queen: > [@](#): > > Today my family had very constructive discussions on the future of my grandson and his family. > > My family and I are entirely supportive of Harry and Meghan’s desire to create a new life as a young family. Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working Members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family. > > Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives. > > It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK. > > These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days. Posted on the Royal Family website [https://www.royal.uk/statement-her-majesty-queen](https://www.royal.uk/statement-her-majesty-queen) ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/155 "2020-01-13T17:14:54Z")
> [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > As for Harry and Meghan, the media give them a hard time, but it is not unrelated to the fact that Meghan comes across as a not so nice person after all and one who lacks the common touch, not to mention her ostentatious spending. that really ticks off the less affluent. People keep looking to see if she is Wallis Simpson 2.0, and unfortunately there are some analogies. I for one suspect that the dream marriage will end in a nasty divorce within a bout a decade. The two are not really that compatible. If you look at the Queen’s immediate family (Margaret, Charles, Anne, Andrew, Edward) only one of them hadn’t experienced divorce - that’s an 80% divorce rate. I don’t think you can pin anything on Megan and “compatibility”. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/156 "2020-01-13T17:15:53Z")
The Queen’s message was very gracious. ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/157 "2020-01-13T17:25:07Z")
> [@VOW](#): > > The Queen’s message was very gracious. > ~VOW As gracious as an aged great-grandmother presiding over a family discussion about her adult grandson’s future can be, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/158 "2020-01-13T17:31:30Z")
Gracious, but it left a lot of questions unanswered. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/159 "2020-01-13T19:40:38Z")
nobody should be forced to work a job they don’t like , especially when their family is very wealthy. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139/160 "2020-01-13T19:51:26Z")
So Charles won’t be providing Harry with his princely 5M yearly stipend?.. Who I wonder, “made it clear” that they won’t be relying on public funds in their new independent lives. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-and-meghan-quitting-royal-family/846139.md?page=9)