# Prince Harry on 60 Minutes — what’s his story? Good guy? Spoiled brat? What? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2023, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908 "2023-01-09T07:33:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/181 "2023-01-11T22:41:58Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > From my point of view the best thing for the United Kingdom would be for a King Ralph situation to occur, gathering all the royals together for a photo opportunity followed by a fortuitous lightning strike. That’s not the only way it might happen! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gkM_98p0JOk/maxresdefault.jpg "Alan Partridge - Knowing me Knowing You Full Radio Series episodes 1-6 - 3 hours of Alan Partridge") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkM_98p0JOk&t=5848) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/182 "2023-01-11T23:28:26Z")
He should be Eric Trump’s buddy. Similar ages, both younger sons with dead moms. Both royalty /s ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/183 "2023-01-12T07:41:03Z")
For those interested in his book but not so much that you actually want to spend money or read it, [here’s a digested version from the Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/12/i-was-alone-abandoned-with-only-a-hundred-million-in-the-bank-spare-digested-by-john-crace). It seems to get to the real essence of it. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/184 "2023-01-13T01:37:25Z")
> [@slash2k](#): > > A (minor) additional piece of evidence is now available: [the tailor](https://people.com/royals/royal-tailor-comments-meghan-markle-kate-middleton-bridesmaid-dress-disagreement/) involved says that all six bridesmaids’ dresses had to be resewn in the four days before the wedding, “as they weren’t going to fit.” The tailor didn’t know anything about the dispute between Meghan and Kate, but four people working multiple days into the middle of the night on six small dresses suggests that Kate might not have been too far off the mark in her complaints about the dresses From > **[Prince Harry reveals Meghan and Kate’s tense texts about infamous bridesmaid...](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-william-and-kate-wedding-bridesmaids-b2260050.html)** > > The texts were allegedly about Princess Charlotte’s bridesmaid dress for the 2018 wedding being too big. > [@](#): > > Harry recalled how Meghan received a text from Kate about the dresses needing to be altered. He claimed that when Meghan responded, she told Kate that their tailor, Ajay, would be making his way to Kensington Palace. However, he claimed that this response “wasn’t sufficient,” before sharing the alleged text conversation between the two women. > > “Charlotte’s dress is too big, too long, too baggy,” Kate’s text said, according to Harry. “She cried when she tried it on at home.” > > Harry then claimed that Meghan responded with: “Right, and I told you the tailor has been standing by since eight a.m. Here. At KP. Can you take Charlotte to have it altered, as the other moms are doing?” > > In her reply, Kate allegedly said that “all of the dresses need to be remade”. Harry also claimed that Kate’s wedding dress designer had agreed with her. . [more wedding stuff texted] . > [@](#): > > After Kate said that she knew about Meghan’s father, she still mentioned the dresses and texted: “And the wedding is in four days!” Meghan then replied with: “Yes, Kate, I know…” > > Harry went on to claim that Kate texted about other wedding issues, including “the page boys,” and that the two women “went back and forth” about the topic. > > The conversation allegedly ended with Meghan texted: “I’m not sure what else to say. If the dress doesn’t fit then please take Charlotte to see Ajay. He’s been waiting all day,” to which Kate responded: “Fine.” There’s more at the article. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/185 "2023-01-13T12:09:20Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > [aside]This reminds me of Vertigo/DC’s _Fables_ comic book series, which puts all the characters of fairy tales in a modern setting. There, it turns out that the Prince Charming that Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, and Cinderella were all the same person. He was an irresistible suitor but a terrible husband and habitual adulterer. Thus, each of them divorced him.[/aside] See also the two princes in Sondheim’s _Into the Woods_ who are much the same (and after the same three women, plus Rapunzel and, for good measure, the baker’s wife) - loving the chase but not the prize once won. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/186 "2023-01-13T15:26:53Z")
I’m off-topic but The Hero’s Guide to Saving Your Kingdom is (I thought) a pretty funny take on the Prince Charming stories. [The Hero’s Guide to Saving Your Kingdom](https://www.amazon.com/Heros-Guide-Saving-Your-Kingdom/dp/0062117459) You can download the kindle version free, which is what I did. Okay sorry, I’ll butt out again. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/187 "2023-01-14T01:00:52Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4WXNbmVIaNI/hqdefault.jpg "Spin Doctors Two Princes (Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXNbmVIaNI) ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/188 "2023-01-14T17:45:20Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > **However** , it is not always wise to “stand on your rights.” Sometimes a softer, more restrained approach is the wiser choice. “Of all the manifestations of power, restraint is the most impressive.” (Thucydides) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/189 "2023-01-17T22:18:59Z")
Prince Harry on 60 Minutes — what’s his story? Good guy? Spoiled brat? What? Useless inconsequential royal? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/190 "2023-01-18T00:00:56Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > In any case, regardless of blame, if you truly do want to make things better it seems like a bad idea to continue making it worse. Sometimes the road back home to the Shire passes through Mount Doom. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/191 "2023-01-18T00:28:20Z")
We should have led with this. > [@](#): > > one time I was in England and I was a prince and my mom was Diana and she died and my family is mean and my wife is brown and I’m sorry I wore a Nazi. > **[One Time I Was In England And I Was A Prince And My Mom Was Diana And She...](https://www.theonion.com/one-time-i-was-in-england-and-i-was-a-prince-and-my-mom-1849976518)** > > By Prince Harry ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/192 "2023-01-18T03:47:31Z")
Extremely strong sales of his autobiography: > **[Prince Harry’s Spare is fastest-selling nonfiction book since UK records began](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/17/prince-harry-spare-is-fastest-selling-non-fiction-book)** > > First week of the controversial memoir’s sales breaks official UK records reports Nielsen, Guinness World Records and Waterstones ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/193 "2023-01-18T07:21:55Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Sometimes the road back home to the Shire passes through Mount Doom Is that a quote from his book? Because it definitely sounds like the sort of overblown, melodramatic, self-centred analogy that the critics are making fun of. Whatever Harry thinks he is doing, saving the world it is not. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/194 "2023-01-18T17:59:22Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Is that a quote from his book? Not that I’m aware of. It’s merely a paraphrase of what Sam Gamgee told himself in LotR. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/195 "2023-01-18T20:21:04Z")
I know it’s a silly question but by now shouldn’t Harry’s title be “The Author Formerly Known As Prince”? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/196 "2023-01-18T20:52:46Z")
I don’t spend any time thinking about the British Royals. But I saw the interview on _60 Minutes_. I begrudgingly accept the Royals as a sop to tradition, historical wartime service, morale and tourism. I am pleased their political role is usually meaningless but some real leadership might have been handy during this Brexit debacle. Royalty is a straitjacket where one accepts ridiculous privilege and wealth in return for duty, traditional roles, limited privacy and discretion. While difficult, my level of empathy is quite limited. If it is true his family has failed to live up to the understood obligations, he has a right to state his views. If he has opted for fewer obligations and more freedom than probably cannot expect the full support of his family. I’m not planning on reading the book. I suspect British tabloids are often unfair and difficult and that Harry is correct about microaggressive racism. However, it is hard to believe this greatly surprises him. He comes across to me as somewhat calculating and only slightly naive. It is slightly hard to reconcile the little I know about his military achievements with an apparent tendency to get misty eyed over tchotchkes. Everyone with siblings understands the dynamics sometimes at play. But I don’t want to be unfair, obviously there was a troubled past and the family dynamics are doubtless enormously dysfunction - they’d have to be, no? It bothers me little if he wants to have his cake and eat it too, if this is indeed what is going on. Seems likeable enough, and no doubt many benefit from therapy, but maybe some more gravitas if he wants to be taken seriously? Or not. Not my circus. Not my monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/197 "2023-01-18T21:55:30Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > I know it’s a silly question but by now shouldn’t Harry’s title be > “The Author Formerly Known As Prince”? He is still His Royal Highness Prince Henry Charles Albert David, the Duke of Sussex, Earl of Dumbarton, and Baron Kilkeel. The monarch didn’t remove any of his titles. He has just decided not to use the “His Royal Highness” part. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/198 "2023-01-18T22:01:00Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > some real leadership might have been handy during this Brexit debacle. Yes—if ever there was a time for the “nuclear option,” that was it. But the queen chose not to fall on her sword to save the UK, and so confirmed that the position is really and truly ceremonial and thus optional. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/199 "2023-01-18T22:04:17Z")
Is it known how she actually felt about Brexit? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908/200 "2023-01-18T22:21:02Z")
I don’t know that it is known, but I would assume that for something that important, you wouldn’t act on your feelings so much as you would on the evidence and expert advice, to which I presume she had access. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-on-60-minutes-what-s-his-story-good-guy-spoiled-brat-what/977908.md?page=11)