# Prince Harry working in the USA? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 23, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518 "2021-03-23T22:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/1 "2021-03-23T22:21:17Z")
Just saw on the news that Prince Harry is working in the US. He’s Chief Impact Officer at BetterUp, a SF area tech company. Is he allowed to work in the US? Does he have a green card? When I visited England, I remember my passport being stamped “Employment not Allowed”. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/2 "2021-03-23T22:31:30Z")
Having a spouse with a US passport allows for extensions in in securing a permanent resident alien status with a green card. His status appears to be confidential but speculation is that he has until this summer to secure a green card. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/3 "2021-03-23T22:52:08Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/4 "2021-03-23T23:06:03Z")
WTF is a _Chief Impact Officer_? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/5 "2021-03-23T23:20:58Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > WTF is a _Chief Impact Officer_ ? The guy who customers can line up and punch when they are unhappy with the company? _That_ would be cool. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/6 "2021-03-24T03:54:56Z")
Wouldn’t the Duchess of Sussex have renounced her US citizenship, what with being a duchess and all? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/7 "2021-03-24T03:58:52Z")
Why would that be a requirement? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/8 "2021-03-24T04:02:35Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Wouldn’t the Duchess of Sussex have renounced her US citizenship, what with being a duchess and all? Apparently, she is still a U.S. citizen, and is not a British citizen at this time. As per this 2019 article: > [@](#): > > Let’s start with the question of Markle’s citizenship. A spokesperson for Kensington Palace [confirmed to CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/europe/prince-harry-meghan-markle-wedding-details/index.html) that Meghan will, in fact, become a British citizen — a process that takes a number of years. But they added it was “too early to say” if she would retain dual nationality. According to the the [UK government’s website](https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen/if-your-spouse-is-a-british-citizen), Markle would have to live in the U.K. for at least three years before starting the process, anyway. > > Markle could choose to renounce her U.S. citizenship after she becomes a British citizen—but she doesn’t have to. Royal expert Marlene Koenig put it this way to _Town & Country_ : “If she remains a U.S. national, her children will have dual nationality just like Madeleine of Sweden’s children.” > **[Could Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Child be a US President and In Line...](https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a13957391/meghan-markle-prince-harry-children-us-british-citizenship/)** > > We asked the experts. And, as per this People article from last month: > [@](#): > > Since the couple moved to California in summer 2020, they have not addressed if Meghan’s bid to become a British citizen would continue or end. > **[Will Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Second Child Be an American or British...](https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-prince-harry-second-child-american-british-citizenship/)** > > Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will likely welcome their second child in California - but will he or she still be a British citizen? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/9 "2021-03-24T04:10:36Z")
Interesting question. Here’s an opinion on the matter (bolding mine): > [Article I, Section 9, Clause 8](https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#toc-section-9-) of the U.S. Constitution, commonly referred to as the Emoluments Clause, states: > > No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. > > **It appears that there is nothing that directly prevents an “ordinary” U.S. citizen who does not hold office from receiving a foreign title and using it as she pleases, unless it leads her to pledge allegiance to a foreign power.** Such a pledge of allegiance would, in the past, automatically lead to a loss of U.S. citizenship. > [Marry a Prince, become a Duchess, and Lose your American Citizenship? Could the Royal Wedding Create a Nationality Headache? Musings of an Immigration Lawyer - Lexology](https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=c4dec628-db01-474e-ab68-8bb0519e51fa) Interestingly, though, it worked the other way for Conrad Black, who was offered the title of The Baron Black of Crossharbour in 2001. The Prime Minister of Canada at the time, Jean Chretien, objected to the title, citing **[the Nickle Resolution of 1919](https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/nickle-resolution)** disallowing the practice of bestowing titles of British nobility on Canadian citizens. In response, Black renounced his Canadian citizenship. Later, this made his eligibility to return to Canada questionable after his criminal conviction in the US. He was eventually re-admitted, but his long-term status is still uncertain, AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/10 "2021-03-24T05:34:59Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Wouldn’t the Duchess of Sussex have renounced her US citizenship, what with being a duchess and all? She would be stateless if she had done that. The US does allow its citizens to voluntarily become stateless, but it’s still a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/11 "2021-03-24T06:02:19Z")
I would have thought that the title of nobility came with British citizenship, but apparently no. ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/12 "2021-03-24T09:57:36Z")
Meghan doesn’t have a title of nobility; Harry does. In British peerage law, the title exists only once, and is assigned to an individual titleholder - which is Harry, in the case of the title of Duke of Sussex. Meghan, being the wife of a Duke, has the courtesy title of Duchess, but the peerage is Harry’s. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/13 "2021-03-24T10:08:40Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > WTF is a _Chief Impact Officer_ ? WAG - his job is to be the famous face of the brand in order to attract punters\*, investors and publicity. Lots of being at events and dinners and shaking a lot of hands, plus mentioning the company name in public at every opportunity. \*British slang for “customers” ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/14 "2021-03-24T10:19:17Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Is he allowed to work in the US? Does he have a green card? I assume the US has similar employment laws to the UK, where companies can ‘sponsor’ the employment of a foreign national if they have unique skills/experience - there’s certainly an argument to be made that you’d be hard pushed to find a better person to fulfil the role of ‘Chief Impact Officer’. My sister in law works for a major US business - originally in the UK, but now in the US. I assume the business sorts out her green card. It’s how international business works. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/15 "2021-03-24T10:20:05Z")
And perhaps allowing them to add his name on their letterhead. a time-honoured way for the rich and famous to garner income with very little actual work. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/16 "2021-03-24T12:57:35Z")
You are correct. I’d forgotten about all the non-US sports figures etc. that work here. It’s that H1N1 visa thing I guess. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/17 "2021-03-24T13:05:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > WAG - his job is to be the famous face of the brand in order to attract punters\*, investors and publicity. Lots of being at events and dinners and shaking a lot of hands, plus mentioning the company name in public at every opportunity. Doesn’t that sound an awful lot like the duties of Royal Life that he started all this to avoid? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/18 "2021-03-24T13:36:46Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Doesn’t that sound an awful lot like the duties of Royal Life that he started all this to avoid? Except for marching up and down the square, what else is he trained for? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/19 "2021-03-24T13:50:39Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Doesn’t that sound an awful lot like the duties of Royal Life that he started all this to avoid? It wasn’t the “duties of Royal Life” he was trying to avoid; it was the horrific family abusing his wife. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518/20 "2021-03-24T14:00:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@bob\_2](#): > > > > WTF is a _Chief Impact Officer_ ? > > WAG - his job is to be the famous face of the brand in order to attract punters\*, investors and publicity. Lots of being at events and dinners and shaking a lot of hands, plus mentioning the company name in public at every opportunity. > > \*British slang for “customers” See, my mental image is that they gave him a bunch of wood, nails and a hammer to keep him busy between corporate promotional public appearances. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-harry-working-in-the-usa/938518.md?page=2)