# Prince Philip has died **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 9, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670 "2021-04-09T11:08:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/101 "2021-04-10T16:04:52Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I think of a woman working 16 hours a day scrubbing floors as working your ass off and you put this up as working your ass off. > > Not the same thing. At all. Not even close. > > YMMV Mine does. I’m not sure how many people actually work 16 hours a day 5 days a week, but as long as the pay was the same, I’d personally rather do manual labor for 10 hours a day as long as it is not in the hot sun than go to more than one social event a day where I’d be the center of attention and have to watch my words. Not to mention being occasionally skewered in the press. Lauds from the press would get old after awhile but attacks would never stop being tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/102 "2021-04-10T16:10:06Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > This is why I don’t understand the mania for video over the written word - who’s got the time? I actively avoid clicking on videos in news and social sites. I don’t either. My personal theory is that it is easy to make once you have the infrastructure: you just have to say things while you’re recording and then you can upload once you have it right, instead of thinking of what to say, typing it, uploading it, and formatting it. But I definitely prefer the written word and other than ease of production I can’t think of why they’d do it. It can’t be revenue because videos are easier to link to without ads, whereas you have a chance of seeing an ad if you actually go to the full web page with text. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/103 "2021-04-10T16:50:39Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > From what I’ve read, he would have been much happier staying in the Navy. Probably, but the Navy wasn’t his first choice. He always wanted to join the Air Force. He still managed to get a pilot’s licence and accumulate nearly 6,000 hours of flying over the years anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/104 "2021-04-10T17:07:28Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > > [@Bootb](#): > > > > From what I’ve read, he would have been much happier staying in the Navy. > > Probably, but the Navy wasn’t his first choice. He always wanted to join the Air Force. > > He still managed to get a pilot’s licence and accumulate nearly 6,000 hours of flying over the years anyway. Which he passed down the generations. Charles and Andrew both flew as did William and Harry. ---
**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/105 "2021-04-10T18:12:01Z")
Change the channel? That’s a laugh. Yesterday all five major channels, including both BBC channels, were showing Prince Phillip news (still dead). The minor BBC channels were off and BBC radio was playing their various ideas of solemn music. I don’t have Netflix etc so that left a load of repeats and dross. And the weather was shit and I’m a bit unwell so I was relying on a couple of my usual programs for distraction and relaxation. Thankfully Saturday night programming is back to normal. Back when Diana died we had only five channels and no streaming. It was a nightmare! I saw a report on the effect on mental health. They said that it caused people’s mental health to worsen in two ways. First the continual reference to death and mourning (of course!). Secondly the loss of regular programming that people. Whether it’s sport, soap or game shows most TV watchers have programmes they rely on to decompress. Consequently they scaled things back when the Queen Mum died and as people have said got a lot of push back for disrespect which led to where we are now. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/106 "2021-04-10T18:15:32Z")
In the United States on September 11 2001, I know my mother turned to The Game Show Network for a break from the endless coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/107 "2021-04-10T18:19:19Z")
By the way, imagine what it’s going to be like when the queen herself passes. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/108 "2021-04-10T18:46:59Z")
Fortunately for me, i live in America. But i can only imagine. Maybe now is a good time to invest in Netflix. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/109 "2021-04-10T19:57:51Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I have often wondered how much having to truncate his career has affected Andrews behaviour. I’m sure it didn’t do him any favors. I mean, how would anyone cope if they had a job like that and were extremely good at it, and they were forced to quit because their parents wanted them to go do family stuff all the time? I suspect something similar went on with Prince Harry as well- I don’t know if he’d have been a General, but from all accounts, he was a competent and respected officer in the British Army, and was basically forced to give that up for family stuff, even though there’s about zero chance he’d actually be King. The whole royalty thing seems very much like a gilded cage these days; none of them seem to be free to pursue what they want to do with their lives, or who they want to do it with. It’s not surprising that the ones who aren’t in line for the throne tend to flame out somehow- they’re bound by all the bullshit, but don’t get the ultimate payoff for it. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/110 "2021-04-10T20:06:45Z")
> [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](#): > > Change the channel? That’s a laugh. Yesterday all five major channels, including both BBC channels, were showing Prince Phillip news (still dead). The minor BBC channels were off and BBC radio was playing their various ideas of solemn music. I don’t have Netflix etc so that left a load of repeats and dross. And the weather was shit and I’m a bit unwell so I was relying on a couple of my usual programs for distraction and relaxation. > > Thankfully Saturday night programming is back to normal. Back when Diana died we had only five channels and no streaming. It was a nightmare! I saw a report on the effect on mental health. They said that it caused people’s mental health to worsen in two ways. First the continual reference to death and mourning (of course!). Secondly the loss of regular programming that people. Whether it’s sport, soap or game shows most TV watchers have programmes they rely on to decompress. This. Precisely. I sent a complaint … first time ever ! > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > By the way, imagine what it’s going to be like when the queen herself passes. Just what i said to my gf ! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/111 "2021-04-10T20:15:35Z")
Although, other cable stations such as Food Network, HGTV, Lifetime and QVC, to name a few, stopped showing any programming at all. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/112 "2021-04-10T20:35:46Z")
As someone who has, myself, been widowed I have sympathy for Elizabeth of Windsor as a fellow human being. For the rest - I have no opinion. May Phillip rest in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/113 "2021-04-10T21:27:45Z")
I just saw this FWIW: > **[The South Pacific tribe who worship Prince Philip believe he will now return](https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/09042021-the-south-pacific-tribe-who-worship-prince-philip-believe-he-will-now-return)** > > In Tanna, part of a South Pacific Ocean archipelago made up of 80 islands, the Yaohnanen tribe consider the Duke of Edinburgh a deity. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/114 "2021-04-10T22:57:58Z")
Exactly as would be expected of a religion. No big surprise. > [@bump](#): > > I suspect something similar went on with Prince Harry as well- I don’t know if he’d have been a General, but from all accounts, he was a competent and respected officer in the British Army, and was basically forced to give that up for family stuff, even though there’s about zero chance he’d actually be King. Basically every “prince(ss)” is expected to have their main job be doing “royal family” work once they complete their education and/or a tour of duty. The Queen can’t be everywhere but a dozen close relatives from cousins to children to grandchildren can be at a dozen events (and besides there are so many “Royal \_\_\_\_” patronages to fill… we don’t want The Royal Guild of Shrubbers to be missing a warm body with a HRH as a figurehead, do we?) > [@](#): > > The whole royalty thing seems very much like a gilded cage these days; none of them seem to be free to pursue what they want to do with their lives, or who they want to do it with. Modern British royals can marry whoever they want to, but if they’re anywhere close to the line they still “have” to do so sooner rather than later, in some sort of big-deal public event, then hurry up and pump out “issue”, and the Court and the media still get to get all up in their grill over how they did it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/115 "2021-04-10T23:19:06Z")
A brief word from the Prince of Wales: [Prince Charles thanks public for condolences after death of his 'dear papa'](https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/prince-charles-thanks-public-condolences-173518398.html) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/116 "2021-04-11T03:35:17Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > But on the whole and as a rule – and I knew him for almost 50 years – he was the best of company: funny and surprisingly tolerant. Tolerant of _what_?! Does this term have a different nuance in Britain? Maybe I’m mis-reading but it makes the glowing words sound like damning with faint praise: “Best thing I can say about the guy is he’s not a complete racist!” … am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/117 "2021-04-11T07:32:35Z")
Probably not - certainly by modern terms Phillip was abrasive and… other words. Then again, he was the product of a century ago, at which time he was probably considered middle-of-the-road. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/118 "2021-04-11T08:12:15Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Tolerant of _what_ ?! Tolerant of different views and opinions in general. He’s not talking about racial tolerance, he’s saying that Philip didn’t assume that his opinions were necessarily right and other people’s were necessarily wrong. I don’t think he was a racist, though sometimes his attempts at humour using national and racial stereotypes were a bit off. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/119 "2021-04-11T15:50:26Z")
> **['The Crown' effect: How a TV show introduced Prince Philip to a generation of...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/11/tv-shows/crown-effect-prince-philip-gbr-cmd-intl/index.html)** > > For over 70 years, he was at Queen Elizabeth II's side. Not until he was 96, just three years before his death, did Prince Philip step back from most of his public duties. > **[BBC deluged with complaints over wall-to-wall Prince Philip coverage | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/10/media/bbc-prince-philip-complaints-scli-intl/index.html)** > > Global interest in the British royal family has boomed recently, mostly due to Harry and Meghan's bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey last month and the hit TV series "The Crown." But after Prince Philip's death on Friday, media saturation appears... ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670/120 "2021-04-11T17:49:07Z")
> [@bump](#): > > > [@AK84](#): > > > > I have often wondered how much having to truncate his career has affected Andrews behaviour. > > I’m sure it didn’t do him any favors. I mean, how would anyone cope if they had a job like that and were extremely good at it, and they were forced to quit because their parents wanted them to go do family stuff all the time? > > I suspect something similar went on with Prince Harry as well- I don’t know if he’d have been a General, but from all accounts, he was a competent and respected officer in the British Army, and was basically forced to give that up for family stuff, even though there’s about zero chance he’d actually be King. > > The whole royalty thing seems very much like a gilded cage these days; none of them seem to be free to pursue what they want to do with their lives, or who they want to do it with. It’s not surprising that the ones who aren’t in line for the throne tend to flame out somehow- they’re bound by all the bullshit, but don’t get the ultimate payoff for it. Andrew did 22 years of active service in the Navy. That’s a full career for most. I’m not so sure Harry was forced to leave the military. He spent 10 years in his uncle in a similar position was in for more than double that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prince-philip-has-died/939670.md?page=7)