# Prison Break - 10/4

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 3, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061 "2006-10-03T02:04:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author: ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/1 "2006-10-03T02:04:26Z")

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Overheard in the “Prison Break” writer’s room. “Oh! Oh! I know. Let’s have it look like he’s going to the house were the cons are and BAM! it turns out he’s really gone to the girl’s house.” “But, dude, we do that in, like, every episode. People are gonna’ start thinking we’re lame and stuff.” “Ah fuck it! It’s just television. Type it up.”

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### Author: ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/2 "2006-10-03T02:06:58Z")

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Mod Alert! Title should be “Prison Break 10/2”.

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### Author: ![Aunt\_Flow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Aunt\_Flow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aunt_Flow)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/3 "2006-10-03T05:00:07Z")

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Wait a minute…3 WEEKS till the next episode? Bastards!

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### Author: ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/4 "2006-10-03T12:28:47Z")

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They found the money. WHOO HOO!

Next it’s something about “honor among thieves.”

Best line: Old Texas-Trailer-Trash here is going to have an Asian hand.

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/5 "2006-10-03T12:33:15Z")

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FBI guys got a real dark side, don’t he. I knew who was going to buy it, but I didn’t predict that.

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### Author: ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/6 "2006-10-03T12:45:51Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> People are gonna’ start thinking we’re lame and stuff."

Now we just try and predict the twist. Would it be “someone else’s house” or “they already left”? I predicted someone else’s house, but I didn’t guess that it was hers.

I’m liking the FBI guy’s dark side. I guess he did get Abruzzi on purpose, didn’t he?

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/7 "2006-10-03T13:20:43Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Best line: Old Texas-Trailer-Trash here is going to have an Asian hand.

Wasn’t it more like “old KKK here” or something?

Obviously he wasn’t going to the house where the cons were digging but I didn’t think about him showing up at the girl’s house. So that part of it was a nice twist.

I wish Haywire would just die or something. His little vignettes are really annoying and a waste of screen time.

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/8 "2006-10-03T14:30:56Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> I’m liking the FBI guy’s dark side. I guess he did get Abruzzi on purpose, didn’t he?

I don’t think so. I think he was pissed at Tweener showing him up the way he did. Tweener made him look very bad in front of everyone.

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/9 "2006-10-03T15:12:44Z")

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Ah, but remember the criticism he got after the Abruzzi kill, questioning why he didn’t take Abruzzi out before he went into the motel room. Mahone snapped back something about how the criticiser should grab a weapon if he thought he could do better, but it could very well be that Abruzzi’s death was deliberate and Mahone is planning on offing all the escapees.

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### Author: ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/10 "2006-10-03T17:20:06Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> I wish Haywire would just die or something. His little vignettes are really annoying and a waste of screen time.

Agreed, but it would be pretty damned cool if he DID manage to raft all the way to Holland, with the dog. Boy, wouldn’t Michael and his full-body tattoo and intricate plans be embarassed, then.

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/11 "2006-10-03T18:21:35Z")

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I’m wondering if and how they’ll integrate Haywire back into the main story. Until then, I just accept his vignettes for what they are…comic relief. They serve the same purpose that having Kim Bauer chased by jaguars served. Only they do it better.

**Otto** , you make a good point, regarding Mahone. That said, I’m not fully convinced he wouldn’t have wanted Abruzzi alive. Had Abruzzi surrendered…well, that’s getting into the realm of 'what if?" and its rather pointless when talking about a TV show.

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2006, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/12 "2006-10-14T07:00:57Z")

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Sorry for showing up late. Just got caught up. Not many posts in this thread. Does that spell doom for the show?

I didn’t think Tweener was going to die, because he wasn’t in prison for murder. Blows that out of the water. Now they’ve established any one of these guys can die, which makes me really nervous about Sucre.

Can’t help but like Paul Kellerman, dirty rotten Secret Service guy. I’ve always liked him, even though he’s so despicably evil. He’s just likable. I suspect he’s going to have a change of heart and help Sara escape & maybe figure out what’s going on. He’s maybe had enough kill, kill, killing on behalf of the President. He’s destined to die eventually, being so evil. But there are worse things than if he were to stick around for awhile.

I really don’t mind Haywire. Comic relief, but with a bit of an edge. He just might ax murder you, but all he really wants is to get to Holland. It’d be funny if at the end of the series, we see him & his new dog living happily in Holland. Or someplace that looks like Holland, in his deranged mind.

Agent Mahone is way out there. How’s he going to explain Tweeners little accident? “Oh, he was handcuffed but somehow managed to get my gun and shoot himself six times with my gun before I could do anything! What, he has no gunshot residue on his hands? Gosh. I dunno. Bummer, huh?”

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/13 "2006-10-14T13:39:33Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Agent Mahone is way out there. How’s he going to explain Tweeners little accident? “Oh, he was handcuffed but somehow managed to get my gun and shoot himself six times with my gun before I could do anything! What, he has no gunshot residue on his hands? Gosh. I dunno. Bummer, huh?”  
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No, it’s “He attacked me and got ahold of my backup gun. Luckily, before he could fire, I was able to shoot him.” He planted a different gun in Tweener’s hands. It’s still weak but since no one is really going to care all that much about a dead con, he’s likely to get away with it.

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/14 "2006-10-14T17:33:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
No, it’s “He attacked me and got ahold of my backup gun. Luckily, before he could fire, I was able to shoot him.” He planted a different gun in Tweener’s hands. It’s still weak but since no one is really going to care all that much about a dead con, he’s likely to get away with it.  
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Yeah, that makes more sense. Although, it’s got to set off some suspicious alarm bells among his coworkers.

So is it two more weeks yet before a new episode?

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### Author: ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/15 "2006-10-14T18:47:41Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
Agent Mahone is way out there. How’s he going to explain Tweeners little accident?  
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Regarding his motivation, didn’t he say something like “I really have nothing against you, kid … but they do.” before putting a few rounds in Tweener’s chest? Doesn’t that indicate he’s involved in the conspiracy to … um … whatever?

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prison-break-10-4/375061/16 "2006-10-14T20:14:37Z")

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[QUOTE=chorpler]  
Regarding his motivation, didn’t he say something like “I really have nothing against you, kid … but they do.” before putting a few rounds in Tweener’s chest? Doesn’t that indicate he’s involved in the conspiracy to … um … whatever?  
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I hadn’t thought of that. I figured Mahone just can’t handle being outsmarted. But now that you mention it, who are “they?”

Maybe “they” are the other voices in his head.
