# Privacy =( **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 4, 2000, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602 "2000-10-04T10:15:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PR0TEIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PR0TEIN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PR0TEIN)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/1 "2000-10-04T10:15:41Z")
Hi there, I have found a site where someone says that those downloadmanagers like gozilla do spying on the files you download and other themes regarding privacy. I was quite shocked =( I have heard about those privacy holes before but never thought that it could be that worse ! Maybe you should have a look as well: (Spam deleted. --Gaudere) Let me know what you think about this ! Kind regards Martin [Edited by Gaudere on 10-04-2000 at 10:02 AM] ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/2 "2000-10-04T12:21:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by PR0TEIN \* > \*\*Hi there, > > I have found a site where someone says that those downloadmanagers like gozilla do spying on the files you download and other themes regarding privacy. I was quite shocked =( > I have heard about those privacy holes before but never thought that it could be that worse ! > Maybe you should have a look as well: > Let me know what you think about this ! > \*\* Gosh. There’s about two sentences of information on that page that strangely echo your questions. There’re also several big,ugly ads for that Alex Chiu geek who has the magic immortality rings. I’d strongly advise, and I _know_ you would too, Martin/Protien, that everyone avoid clicking on either of those two Alex Chiu links. And if you really do care about privacy, [http://grc.com/optout.htm](http://grc.com/optout.htm) seems to have quite a bit of information on spyware that’s actual information, rather than regurgiated sound bites But I’m not really sure where the debate, great or otherwise is here. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/3 "2000-10-04T12:27:49Z")
One other _amazing_ fact. The header on the page seems to be for that Alex Chiu looney too. It really looks like an Alex (“I’m a kook”) Chiu shill page than an actual info site. (The header “Have you thought about the possibility to stay alive forever?”) I’m sure we’ll see you in here again Protien/Martin telling us how you were also duped by the slick, professional look of that page and had _no idea_ that it was another Alex “My Magic Rings’ll let you fly to the MOON” Chiu site. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/4 "2000-10-04T13:07:26Z")
Since the Alex Chiu thing has once again reared its head. **waterj2** already pointed out that this was posted on a bullitin board on Mr. Chiu’s site. From : [http://www.alexchiu.com/howtoad/messages/c28.html](http://www.alexchiu.com/howtoad/messages/c28.html) Subject: 200 hits a day. Just 5 minutes labor. Post your link code on [straightdope.com](http://straightdope.com) . > [@](#): > > Posted by Xmod on September 23, 19100 at 00:53:44: > I guarantee you this is the best bulletin board to advertise for [alexchiu.com](http://alexchiu.com). I found this board thru a previous message posted here. I went and got so many hits a day. This is absolutely great. > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/) I’m sure this has nothing to do with PROTEIN though :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/5 "2000-10-04T14:09:33Z")
They are saying on their message board that they should spam our board?!?!? Anyone wanna visit that message board and show them what spam really is? [sub]Note: I am not suggesting we actually do this. I mean, retalliation is not very nice or ethical. But it’s a nice thought…[/sub] * * * Yer pal, Satan - Commissioner, [The Teeming Minions](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/full/show?lid=39428&page=leaguehome) \*I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR: Five months, three weeks, four days, 12 hours, 13 minutes and 48 seconds. 7140 cigarettes not smoked, saving $892.55. Extra life with Drain Bead: 3 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 0 minutes. \***“I’m a big Genesis fan.”-David B. _(Amen, brother!)_** \*\* ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/6 "2000-10-04T14:20:48Z")
Will you give me a dollar, Satan? (Note: This board does _not_ encourage people to spam other sites. Doing so would be a violation of board policy (“don’t be a jerk”), and even worse, _takes you down to their level_. Do NOT spam other sites, no matter how much they piss you off.) ---
**Author:** ![barker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@barker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/7 "2000-10-04T14:29:45Z")
Have to agree with Satan on that one. Don’t want to SPAM that Board. I do think that I may have some questions about their device to ask on their “Medical Bulletin Board” [www.alexchiu.com/bulletin/wwwboard.html](http://www.alexchiu.com/bulletin/wwwboard.html) Just to enlighten myself about their product. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/8 "2000-10-04T14:39:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Corrado \* > > **This board does _not_ encourage people to spam other sites.** Actually, I just tried to post a message there - not SPAM, just a little “stop SPAMMING us, it’s against both of our rules” comment (I swear) - and the message is not posted until someone from the board reviews the message. So, the board administrators have to approve everything that gets posted. On one hand, it makes us spamming the board impossible. But on the other, it shows that the board administrators DO encourage this shit. Or at least do not stop it. If any of our administrators would like to try and do something about this in a more correct, moderator-type way, here is the registrar information for the site: ```auto Registrant: alex chiu (ALEXCHIU-DOM) PO Box 16547 San Francisco, CA 94116 Domain Name: ALEXCHIU.COM Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: chiu, alex (AC2478) alexc@MYMAILSTATION.COM alex chiu po box 16547 san francisco, CA 94116 415 585 3825 (FAX) 415 587 3763 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: XXI, Cyber (JC16310) support@CGIGURU.COM Cyber XXI 119 North Parker, Box 161 Olathe, KS 66061 913-829-8099 (FAX) xxx-xxx-xxxx Record last updated on 06-May-2000. Record expires on 07-May-2001. Record created on 06-May-1997. Database last updated on 3-Oct-2000 01:25:50 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.CYBERXXI.COM 206.153.141.240 NS2.CYBERXXI.COM 206.153.141.241 ``` Fuck 'em up, please? * * * Yer pal, Satan - Commissioner, [The Teeming Minions](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/full/show?lid=39428&page=leaguehome) \*I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR: Five months, three weeks, four days, 12 hours, 44 minutes and 8 seconds. 7141 cigarettes not smoked, saving $892.65. Extra life with Drain Bead: 3 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 5 minutes. \***“I’m a big Genesis fan.”-David B. _(Amen, brother!)_** ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2000, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privacy/35602/9 "2000-10-04T15:01:11Z")
[Moderator Hat ON] Bad Spammer! BAD! I’m locking this and removing direct spam-links. [Moderator Hat OFF]