# Private emails , Ivanka version

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-emails-ivanka-version/824843>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 20, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-emails-ivanka-version/824843 "2018-11-20T11:24:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-emails-ivanka-version/824843/81 "2018-11-26T14:53:44Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> You hope the Republican response will be “oh, we demanded Hillary locked up, so we’ll demand the same for Ivanka, otherwise our outrage would seem transparently insincere and situational.”
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> The actual Republican response will be “oh, you’re angry about Ivanka’s emails, but you didn’t care about Hillary’s emails.”
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> You will then clarify “I don’t give a shit about Ivanka’s emails, I’m calling out your double standard on emails between Ivanka and Hillary.”
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> The response will then be “What about your double standard between [some completely different thing probably involving Bill Clinton]”.
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> There’s no hope. Conservatism is the Scientology of politics. They’re beyond rational engagement.

Wait. Were you at my Thanksgiving dinner?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-emails-ivanka-version/824843/82 "2018-11-26T15:45:32Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Could this be the break the Clinton campaign has been waiting for?

Two dots so distant, it’s a wonder you didn’t run out of crayon connecting them.

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-emails-ivanka-version/824843/83 "2018-11-28T21:21:35Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It was about her using a private e-mail server. Supposedly the server was “unsecured”, except that in actual fact it turned out to be more secure than the official governmental one she was supposed to be using.

Horsepucky. Clinton’s ‘secure’ server had RDP enabled to the outside world. They also had VNC enabled on servers on the same network. Guess what? That isn’t secure. Link 1 below.

Next, Clinton’s server didn’t have SSL configured for the first two months he was SecState. This is not secure. Link 2 below. Also her server ran a known to be broken version of SSL until the story broke. Then the IT guys frantically updated the certs. That is really not secure/

Furthermore, Clinton’s emails were being backed up to the cloud. This is certainly not secure. Link 3 below.

There are other issues besides those, however those are enough to prove that her server was not secure. Claiming Clinton’s email server was more secure than government servers she should have used is just straight up bullshit. The guys running the Clinton servers just didn’t give a fuck about security. Pure amateur hour.

Also note, due to the SSL issue no one had to actually penetrate her server to get the emails. Running no SSL means the emails were in plain text. After SSL was installed, the IT guys never updated it and they were running a known to be broken version of SSL until the story broke. That means that anyone intercepting emails on the way to or from the Clinton server could read them so man in the middle attacks are very possible and no one would know.

Note, if Ivanka passed classified material through her email accounts then those responsible, including Ivanka, ought to lose their clearance and be charged with the appropriate crime.

#1 [More Drama About Hillary Clinton's E-mail Leak - VNC & RDP Open - Darknet - Hacking Tools, Hacker News & Cyber Security](https://www.darknet.org.uk/2015/10/more-drama-about-hillary-clintons-e-mail-leak-vnc-rdp-open/)

#2. [China to probe Micron over cybersecurity, in chip war’s latest battle – Computerworld](https://www.computerworld.com/article/2895892/hillary-clintons-email-system-was-insecure-for-two-months.html)

#3. [https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html](https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html)

Slee

PS, for some reason I cannot create links in posts and I don’t feel like figuring out why.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-emails-ivanka-version/824843/84 "2018-11-29T06:56:14Z")

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[Ivanka Trump says ‘Lock her up!’ doesn’t apply in her case](https://apnews.com/e60d96ffbc4c4b1dba5ef7560afc72d0)

> [@Ivanka Trump](#):
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> All of my emails are stored and preserved. There were no deletions

> [@Ivanka Trump](#):
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> There is no restriction of using personal email,” she said. “In fact, we’re instructed that if we receive an email to our personal account that could relate to government work, you simply just forward it to your government account so it can be archived.

> [@Ivanka Trump](#):
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> There’s no equivalency to what my father’s spoken about.

And last but not least:

> [@Ivanka Trump](#):
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> I know the facts as they relate to me and my family, and so I have nothing to be concerned about.

Oh yes you do.

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