# Private School in Miami warns staff to not get COVID-19 vaccine

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**Created:** [April 27, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839 "2021-04-27T06:28:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/101 "2021-04-29T02:59:57Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Trump actually encourages people to get vaccinated

He was kind of a twatwaffle but he did say ““I would recommend it, and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don’t want to get it. And a lot of those people voted for me, frankly. But, you know, again, we have our freedoms and we have to live by that, and I agree with that also,” Trump said during an interview with Fox News on Tuesday. “But it’s a great vaccine, it’s a safe vaccine, and it’s something that works.””

> **[Trump Encourages His Supporters To Get COVID-19 Vaccine, Within Limits of...](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/16/978008056/trump-encourages-his-supporters-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-within-limits-of-freedom)**
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> Trump made the partial endorsement of the vaccine during a Tuesday evening interview with Fox News.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/102 "2021-04-29T03:08:14Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> > [@Princhester](#):
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> > Though of course what they sell isn’t necessarily what they believe.
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> That was my take on these two – far more likely _evil_ than _stupid._

One glance at their faces and you (at least me) can see the psychopathy shining out of their eyes. It’s all money to them and everyone else is just a wallet to be emptied via whatever means is most expedient.

Anti-vax is the flavor _du jour_ and nothing more. But, like pistachio, it’s probably a flavor with staying power that can be ridden to great riches.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/103 "2021-04-29T03:27:24Z")

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I’m not a believer in physiognomy but the décor and mode of dress just _screams_ “we are sleazy hucksters” to me.

It’s bemusing the way this sort of look (the “Trump look”) clearly spells “success” to some people - both for the people who look this way, and those who believe in them.

In my professional life I’ve dealt with people with serious money a fair bit, and few if any look like this. The wealthiest person I’ve ever met is most often seen - even in a professional working environment - in jeans and a basic plaid shirt, and somewhat worn boots.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/104 "2021-04-29T03:38:33Z")

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People who really are (fill in the blanks) don’t have to advertise it.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/105 "2021-04-29T03:43:03Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> It’s bemusing the way this sort of look (the “Trump look”) clearly spells “success” to some people - both for the people who look this way, and those who believe in them.

Sneering at the losers is what recent winners who cheated to get there do. And all the current losers who could only win by cheating see themselves vicariously doing the same thing. Hence the rabid applause and adulation. Meanwhile the legitimate winners of the future are too busy working to pose for vanity shots.

There’s a big difference in psychology between wealthy by legit means and wealthy by con artistry, drug dealing, etc. So it shows in the things they value and the values they project.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/106 "2021-04-29T03:54:00Z")

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Once my (now) wife and I were in a small village in England in the early evening. There was hardly anybody about and we were strolling along the main street. A couple about our age who looked to be doing about the same just suddenly started talking to us out of the blue as if we were old friends. They were very pleasant.

I hadn’t lived in the UK for long at that time. Afterward my now wife said “they are serious upper class old money”. Her reasons were they were ultimately self confident but in a totally unselfconscious, non-brash way - it wouldn’t occur to them that people wouldn’t want to talk to them. Secondly their clothes were expensive high quality English made brands but old and worn. And thirdly they drove a battered Landrover.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/107 "2021-04-29T03:59:20Z")

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I OTOH, live in Miami, the natural habitat of the _noveau riche_ conman / conwoman. And I see folks like the Centner swine nearly daily. Equally obvious as your strolling companions, but far less pleasant.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/108 "2021-04-29T04:04:05Z")

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> [@tofor](#):
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> > [@Biffster](#):
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> > Oddly enough, Trump actually encourages people to get vaccinated now. Go figure.
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> I missed this. Do you have a link?

I saw part of an interview just yesterday where he admits getting vaccinated himself in January and encourages everyone to do the same, but I didn’t bookmark it. There’s also this from a month ago:  
[https://youtu.be/i46co3L5gPM](https://youtu.be/i46co3L5gPM)

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/109 "2021-04-29T04:11:07Z")

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That’s the one!

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/110 "2021-04-29T11:38:41Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Now I want a “Vote for Pedro” sticker. (I’m not sure most people would get it, though.)

Put one next to it that says “Tina, you fat lard”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/111 "2021-04-29T14:46:41Z")

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> How’d you like to be a science teacher at this place?

> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Pretty sure science is not part of the ‘happiness’ curriculum.

Woo certainly is!

> **[Miami Centner Academy teacher warned kids against hugging COVID-vaccinated...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/centner-academy-miami-teacher-warned-kids-hugging-covid-vaccine-parents/)**
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> One 5th grade student's mother told CBS News Miami that her "stomach dropped" when she learned about the Centner Academy teacher's warning.

> A fifth-grade math and science teacher at the [Centner Academy](https://miami.cbslocal.com/tag/centner-academy/) told her students on Wednesday morning that COVID-19 vaccines were dangerous, and warned that if their mothers and fathers have been vaccinated, they should not hug their parents for more than five seconds.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/112 "2021-04-29T15:04:01Z")

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I thought the rule was three seconds before the icky stuck.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/113 "2021-04-29T15:13:35Z")

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[Tallahassee and the White House have weighed in.](https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/04/27/white-house-position-centner-academy-covid-vaccine/)

> [Press Secretary Jen] Psaki seemed somewhat [dumbfounded by the school’s policy](https://cbsloc.al/3gN1RqQ) when she was asked about it at her daily press briefing on Tuesday.
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> “Obviously, our objective is continuing to convey that it’s important to abide by public health guidelines, that they’re in place for a reason, that they are not done through a political prism,” she said. “They’re done by medical experts, by health experts intended to keep children safe, keep parents safe, keep teachers safe, keep communities safe, which is why we recommend people abide by them.”

> “It’s absolute lunacy and it goes against everything that’s well understood and well accepted in the scientific community, said State Sen. Jason Pizzo, who represents the district where the Centner Academy has two campuses. “To go ahead and to basically threaten faculty and staff members that if they are vaccinated, or to make up some idea that there are some unnamed disease that’s transmitted that’s affecting people’s menstrual cycles and provoking and invoking miscarriages, is beyond bizarre.”
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> Pizzo said he is demanding the state’s Surgeon General weigh in and dispel these dangerous conspiracy theories the school is promoting. He said he has also asked the state Department of Education to examine whether the school is violating any laws or policies.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/114 "2021-04-29T16:13:50Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> I used to, until a moron rear-ended me and totaled my car. The bumper sticker said “Wicked Liberal Grandma”, white lettering on a purple field. Out of print so I couldn’t replace it.

“Look out, Toto! It’s the Wicked Grandma of the Left!”

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Look out, Toto! It’s the Wicked Grandma of the Left!”

A sobriquet I bear proudly! 🧙🏻‍♀️

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/116 "2021-04-29T16:53:58Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> and warned that if their mothers and fathers have been vaccinated, they should not hug their parents for more than five seconds.

Some (hopefully many) of the parents have been vaccinated and will love hearing that. I hope they withdraw their kids. I wonder how many woo types will enroll their kids because they love this brand of bullshit.

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/117 "2021-04-29T21:11:40Z")

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From info posted upthread it appears these grifters considered the possibility folks might disenroll. And disincentivized that by requiring at least 1 year’s non-refundable tuition paid up front.

A suitable visit by a class action attorney for the unhappy parents might change their minds. As might a visit by the State Education department retracting their license to operate a school.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/118 "2021-04-30T01:34:16Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> One 5th grade student’s mother told CBS News Miami that her “stomach dropped” when she learned about the Centner Academy teacher’s warning.

Weird. At least based on their website, anti-vax woo is the school’s _raison d’être_. What did she expect?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/119 "2021-04-30T03:56:51Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> As might a visit by the State Education department retracting their license to operate a school.

This is likely to happen in the Florid State?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/private-school-in-miami-warns-staff-to-not-get-covid-19-vaccine/940839/120 "2021-04-30T04:30:43Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> > [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > One 5th grade student’s mother told CBS News Miami that her “stomach dropped” when she learned about the Centner Academy teacher’s warning.
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> Weird. At least based on their website, anti-vax woo is the school’s _raison d’être_. What did she expect?

Even to me, being anti-vax about COVID seems worse somehow. I think it’s because it’s so viscerally here, rather than a problem people haven’t seen in a while. Also, a lot of the usual anti-vax complaints don’t seem to apply–like the part about children not being given a choice.

It doesn’t surprise me at all that there are parents who are against the vaccine schedule for kids but are not against vaccines entirely. They buy into the idea that they should be a choice. It really is another level of bonkers to act like getting the vaccine may hurt _others_.

It’s like some sort of mixed up version of projection. The virus is dangerous to others, so let’s argue it’s really the vaccine that is dangerous to others.

I wish it was just that these guys were con men. That idea does seem to actually exist in the wild now–that somehow wearing masks or getting the vaccine harms other people. They really do just seem to steal all our points and apply them in reverse, regardless of whether any of it makes sense.

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