# Privileged sociopath Elizabeth Holmes is pregnant, delaying her trial? WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2021, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808 "2021-03-13T05:11:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/41 "2021-04-24T20:53:14Z")
> [@KL1969](#): > > So many idiotic people here looking beyond the obvious. Well, you can fuck right off, you coliform spewer. Oh, and welcome to the Straight Dope! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/42 "2021-04-24T22:01:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That’s not legit newbie behavior. It’s certainly not _long-lived_ newbie behavior. I wager no quatloos on this newcomer. On the mods, OTOH, I’ll go quatloos all-in. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/43 "2021-04-24T22:37:18Z")
My point was a newbie doesn’t do that. (It’s an obvious sock, or specifically a trock.) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/44 "2021-04-24T22:56:44Z")
Diane Downs did that. Honestly, not a whole different scenario, in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/45 "2021-04-24T22:59:24Z")
Or it’s just a random ass who’s found another random messageboard to spew anger & hate into. I actually expect you’re right; our profile out in the world is not so large that random folks show up every day for the questionable fun of being laughed at and banned. Like it or not, we have a much larger population of banned former members than we do of soon to be new members who haven’t noticed us yet but will soon. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/46 "2021-04-25T00:42:03Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > > the number of very powerful and high profile backers of Theranos, > > Could this really be a factor? I thought she’d been thoroughly discredited and that virtually all her investors realized they’d been taken for a ride. Does she still have supporters? How depressing. And if your prediction proves correct and she gets only a “bullshit penalty” – well, I try not to be a cynical person in general, but that outcome certainly will not enhance my opinion of society’s power structure. Yeah, I think her high-profile backers resent being shown up as dupes and have distanced themselves from her. > [@KL1969](#): > > She absolutely timed her pregnancy to coincide with her trial and to use her infant to either get off or stay out of jail. I’d guess she also timed her marriage that way. > [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s an obvious sock, or specifically a trock What’s a trock? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/47 "2021-04-25T00:44:49Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What’s a trock? I’m guessing troll-sock. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/48 "2021-04-25T16:58:30Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I hold no brief for Elizabeth Holmes but the historian in me is kind of intrigued to see this modern instance of the venerable ploy of [pleading the belly](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleading_the_belly), a provision in English common law that allowed female felons in the later stages of pregnancy to defer their capital punishment until after they’d given birth. I immediately thought of Mary Read and Anne Bonny who both plead their bellies during their trials for piracy. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/49 "2021-04-25T18:16:24Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’m not sure how useful your advice is. Someone’s first post is to go to the Pit and insult posters? That’s not legit newbie behavior. It is sometimes. Some people get a burr under their saddle about a certain celebrity/news item, Google turns up a thread on some message board and they give their rant there never to be seen again. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/50 "2021-04-25T18:53:02Z")
I’m wondering who was stupid enough to stick his dick in the crazy. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/51 "2021-04-25T19:10:01Z")
I’ve wondered that too. It’s hard to imagine any rational person wanting to mate with her; even a scheming pragmatist looking for money would surely realize her personal wealth over the long term is far from guaranteed. I worry about the child no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/52 "2021-04-25T19:22:46Z")
The [guy she married](https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-everything-about-fiance-william-billy-evans-2019-3) is the heir to a family that owns hotels in California. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/53 "2021-04-25T19:25:36Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m wondering who was stupid enough to stick his dick in the crazy. Why should only women fall in love with felons? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/54 "2021-04-25T21:09:24Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The [guy she married](https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-everything-about-fiance-william-billy-evans-2019-3) is the heir to a family that owns hotels in California. That certainly answers the question I asked. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/55 "2021-04-25T21:31:25Z")
I could imagine two particularly narcissistic psychopaths marrying each other. Each fully convinced they’re going to take the other to the cleaners, both financially and emotionally / psychologically. In fact I’d like to encourage such matings; it’ll save two ordinary people one hell of a lot of grief. Here’s a non-paywalled article about the then-fiancé / now-husband > **[Wait, Elizabeth Holmes Is Engaged?](https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/elizabeth-holmes-engaged-billy-evans.html)** > > All we know about her (reported) fiancé. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/56 "2021-04-26T04:17:59Z")
From that article > [@](#): > > After graduating from MIT, Evans reportedly tried to launch a healthcare startup for transporting wealthy Chinese people to the US for “concierge medical attention.” Although he studied Chinese in college, Evans wasn’t fluent in the language, and the idea never took off. > [@](#): > > Evans then moved to Luminar Technologies, a startup working on radar and sensor technology for autonomous cars. His LinkedIn says he was a manager of special projects, but employees told the Post he was fond of “wandering around with absolute purpose, but no one knew what that purpose was.” The next line about him acting like a secret police for the CEO > [@](#): > > Evans was reportedly close with Luminar’s CEO, Austin Russell. He acted as Russell’s “secret police” who would “strut around the office and tell people what to do,” the Post reports. True love! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/57 "2021-04-26T06:06:55Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > His LinkedIn says he was a manager of special projects, but employees told the Post he was fond of “wandering around with absolute purpose, but no one knew what that purpose was.” [![](https://external-preview.redd.it/LI4R5v11JyLbcJFw_zXgjnlPBE-BjXLiyYBGyX2tUnA.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6e99bfb4114f1c3da149d5f1c8eb82fa6b123cad) ](https://external-preview.redd.it/LI4R5v11JyLbcJFw_zXgjnlPBE-BjXLiyYBGyX2tUnA.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6e99bfb4114f1c3da149d5f1c8eb82fa6b123cad) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/58 "2021-05-16T19:32:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m wondering who was stupid enough to stick his dick in the crazy. Crazy is like a roller-coaster. Fun to ride but ya gotta know when to get off. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/59 "2021-05-16T21:59:14Z")
[http://busytape.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/elizabeth-holmes\_-net-worth-02.jpg](http://busytape.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/elizabeth-holmes_-net-worth-02.jpg) “The thing about a shark, it’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When it comes at you it doesn’t seem to be livin’.” ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808/60 "2021-05-17T14:56:09Z")
Current pictures of her aren’t nearly as freaky. Once she dropped the clown makeup, she’s a perfectly ordinary-looking woman, well within the bounds of conventional standards of attractiveness. I don’t know if the freak-show look was part of her con, or if the look was really her, and the current much more natural look is the con. Who knows… I wonder if she even knows… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileged-sociopath-elizabeth-holmes-is-pregnant-delaying-her-trial-wtf/937808.md?page=4)