# Privileging religious whiners

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 6, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850 "2018-09-06T01:41:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/1 "2018-09-06T01:41:02Z")

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When your religion is a blatant fake, with documented fake origins, then you simply mentioning that you’re sympathetic to such a farcical load of shit is **already** a childish joke. When I make fun of your childish “religion” with sophomoric attempts at humour, I cannot possibly drag the conversation down any further than you already had, by admitting that you continue to willingly sacrifice your entire LIFE to your revered leader’s sophomoric attempt at humour.

People, please don’t endorse or protect your neighbour’s stupidity just because he claims it’s his religion. Religion is an idea like any other.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/2 "2018-09-06T01:44:38Z")

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Good Christ, are you an asshole.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/3 "2018-09-06T02:19:06Z")

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Wow, a piece of shit calling someone else an asshole. Classic.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/4 "2018-09-06T02:26:01Z")

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Is there some kind of back-story to this? 😕

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/5 "2018-09-06T03:23:25Z")

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> [@DavidwithanR](#):
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> When your religion is a blatant fake, with documented fake origins, then you simply mentioning that you’re sympathetic to such a farcical load of shit is **already** a childish joke. When I make fun of your childish “religion” with sophomoric attempts at humour, I cannot possibly drag the conversation down any further than you already had, by admitting that you continue to willingly sacrifice your entire LIFE to your revered leader’s sophomoric attempt at humour.
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> People, please don’t endorse or protect your neighbour’s stupidity just because he claims it’s his religion. Religion is an idea like any other.

If you’re talking about Scientology, have the decency to say so. If you’re not talking about Scientology, shut up.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/6 "2018-09-06T03:38:38Z")

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So, you’re back. How was your time off? Relaxing, I hope.

Just wondering, do you envision your time here as a flaming meteorite plummeting to earth, or were you hoping for something longer term?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/7 "2018-09-06T03:45:22Z")

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> [@DavidwithanR](#):
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> When your religion is a blatant fake, with documented fake origins, then you simply mentioning that you’re sympathetic to such a farcical load of shit is **already** a childish joke. When I make fun of your childish “religion” with sophomoric attempts at humour, I cannot possibly drag the conversation down any further than you already had, by admitting that you continue to willingly sacrifice your entire LIFE to your revered leader’s sophomoric attempt at humour.
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> People, please don’t endorse or protect your neighbour’s stupidity just because he claims it’s his religion. Religion is an idea like any other.

That’s a good point but few if any here will acknowledge it.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/8 "2018-09-06T03:45:44Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Is there some kind of back-story to this? 😕

I think it started when the angel Moroni gave some golden plates to Joesph Smith.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/9 "2018-09-06T03:52:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That’s a good point but few if any here will acknowledge it.

“Few if any,” forsooth! Yeah, no militant atheists here, no sir. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/10 "2018-09-06T04:11:04Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> “Few if any,” forsooth! Yeah, no militant atheists here, no sir. :rolleyes:

It’s not even about atheism. It’s about the goofy deference given to primitive beliefs and those who advocate them as long as said beliefs come with a prayer, a silly hat, and some dietary restrictions.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/11 "2018-09-06T04:35:07Z")

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This is a historic occasion! It’s possibly the very first time I’ve agreed with **octopus** unreservedly.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/12 "2018-09-06T04:38:07Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> If you’re talking about Scientology, have the decency to say so. If you’re not talking about Scientology, shut up.

Oh, what, you think your shit stinks less?

(Okay, yeah, it actually does, and one should be careful when blurring the lines between dangerous cults like scientology and the JWs and standard everyday religions which, while still harmful, lack many of the most dangerous, manipulative, and evil aspects of cults.)

But all religions are man-made. All religions posit things we cannot possibly know or already know to be wrong. All religions are more than a little silly. And all religions are, at their very best, the canary in the coal mine of a world where [the sanity waterline is dangerously low](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/XqmjdBKa4ZaXJtNmf/raising-the-sanity-waterline).

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/13 "2018-09-06T04:53:01Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I think it started when the angel Moroni gave some golden plates to Joesph Smith.

No, no, you have to hash your metaphors up. Something like _the Angel Moroni took Mary Baker Eddy up on his shining eagle and bore her forth unto Sun Myung Moon who bestowed upon her the golden plates, but on the return flight, they came unbound from her satchel, fell to the Earth and conked a young Hubbard on the head_.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/14 "2018-09-06T05:09:12Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> If you’re talking about Scientology, have the decency to say so. If you’re not talking about Scientology, shut up.

Is that the silly one that starts with the talking snake?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/15 "2018-09-06T05:20:16Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Wow, a piece of shit calling someone else an asshole. Classic.

If I could remember ever interacting with you, or even reading a single post of yours, that might give your reply some context. But, I don’t…so it’s hard to care what you say about me or about anything. You are such a nobody that I won’t bother to even come up with an insult.it would be like saying nasty things about a guy in a stock photo.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/16 "2018-09-06T05:46:14Z")

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Leave [this guy](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/nerd-man-in-bathrobe-with-morning-coffee-royalty-free-image/117149750) out of it.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/17 "2018-09-06T17:04:03Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> If you’re talking about Scientology, have the decency to say so. If you’re not talking about Scientology, shut up.

What’s the difference?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/18 "2018-09-06T17:05:49Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> If I could remember ever interacting with you, or even reading a single post of yours, that might give your reply some context. But, I don’t…so it’s hard to care what you say about me or about anything. You are such a nobody that I won’t bother to even come up with an insult.it would be like saying nasty things about a guy in a stock photo.

Your posts are noteworthy insofar as I read them, and think, “Oh right, _that’s_ who that guy was.” Take that as you will.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/19 "2018-09-06T17:25:50Z")

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> [@Raising a genderless child from birth](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raising-a-genderless-child-from-birth/812013/15):
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> Trans people themselves are the most transphobic humans on the planet. It’s their own intolerantly rigid and absolutely binary view of gender roles that leads them to mutilate themselves. If they had one ounce themselves of the acceptance they ask from others, the mutilations would be unnecessary.

Remove the beam from your own eye.

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**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/privileging-religious-whiners/820850/20 "2018-09-06T17:42:05Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I think it started when the angel Moroni gave some golden plates to Joesph Smith.

LOL, Mormonism was my first thought too.

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