# Pro bono bullshit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132 "2010-09-09T02:43:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/201 "2010-09-10T00:07:24Z")
I love it when the kids play dress up. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/202 "2010-09-10T00:12:25Z")
I’ve only just read the thread, so I don’t yet know the answer, but I am going to be disappointed that this isn’t a thread calling people out on liking Bono when he is clearly a cunt of the highest order, aren’t I? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/203 "2010-09-10T00:19:26Z")
Good god, I stay away for a while and look what happens to the board - I find myself agreeing with Rand Rover! :eek: I detest requirements for pro bono - and continuing legal ed – actually more than I detest Rand Rover! Hell, him I can ignore. But I only read the first page, so I won’t go on. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/204 "2010-09-10T00:20:06Z")
. . . Or you don’t understand what I was saying. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/205 "2010-09-10T00:22:55Z")
I’m a partner. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/206 "2010-09-10T00:23:22Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > . . . Or you don’t understand what I was saying. God what a … We are both fortunate you are EXTREMELY unlikely to ever appear before me. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/207 "2010-09-10T00:27:38Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > . . . Or you don’t understand what I was saying. > > God what a … > We are both fortunate you are EXTREMELY unlikely to ever appear before me. That was a reply to Varlosz . . . I guess I didn’t refresh my blackberry before doing the quick reply thing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/208 "2010-09-10T00:33:29Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Is RR the type of lawyer who represents clients in court and argues their cases? Or is he more of a desk jockey who serves as an extra body\*\* to make his firm look more impressive?\*\* If that’s the case, it isn’t working. I like the idea of pro bono bullshit precisely because it pisses off the OP. He supports the use of torture, so his unhappiness is a good thing to me. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/209 "2010-09-10T01:03:18Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > > Is RR the type of lawyer who represents clients in court and argues their cases? Or is he more of a desk jockey who serves as an extra body\*\* to make his firm look more impressive?\*\* > > If that’s the case, it isn’t working. > > I like the idea of pro bono bullshit precisely because it pisses off the OP. He supports the use of torture, so his unhappiness is a good thing to me. Precisely! Principles are tossed aside when there is the glory of knowing that jaded, bitter folk like him are bothered by it. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/210 "2010-09-10T01:10:55Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > . . . Or you don’t understand what I was saying. I don’t suppose there’s any chance you’ll stop being coy? It isn’t exactly sporting to refuse to be pinned down, then say “no, that isn’t it at all” when people draw reasonable inferences from your cryptic non-statements. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/211 "2010-09-10T01:19:09Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > > Is RR the type of lawyer who represents clients in court and argues their cases? Or is he more of a desk jockey who serves as an extra body\*\* to make his firm look more impressive?\*\* > > If that’s the case, it isn’t working. > > I like the idea of pro bono bullshit precisely because it pisses off the OP. He supports the use of torture, so his unhappiness is a good thing to me. I don’t support torture. But you knew that. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/212 "2010-09-10T01:21:21Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > . . . Or you don’t understand what I was saying. > > I don’t suppose there’s any chance you’ll stop being coy? It isn’t exactly sporting to refuse to be pinned down, then say “no, that isn’t it at all” when people draw reasonable inferences from your cryptic non-statements. Well, as soon as someone draws a reasonable inference, I’ll respond to it. Actually, I don’t think I’ve been coy on this issue at all. I’ve arguably hijacked several threads asking “Is action x moral” by saying that the question is meaningless because there are no consequences to determining whether action x is moral or not. I think I’ve been very straightforward on this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/213 "2010-09-10T01:22:21Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > > Is RR the type of lawyer who represents clients in court and argues their cases? Or is he more of a desk jockey who serves as an extra body\*\* to make his firm look more impressive?\*\* > > If that’s the case, it isn’t working. > > I like the idea of pro bono bullshit precisely because it pisses off the OP. He supports the use of torture, so his unhappiness is a good thing to me. Also, thank you for typifying the liberal douche position on several issues (e.g., taxes–I ain’t rich, let them rich folks pay taxes!). ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/214 "2010-09-10T01:34:34Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m a partner. And yet you were blindsided by a request to perform your expected pro bono? Some partner. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/215 "2010-09-10T01:42:43Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > I’m a partner. > > And yet you were blindsided by a request to perform your expected pro bono? > > Some partner. :rolleyes: 1. What are the specific facts that lead you to believe I was “blindsided”? 2. I’m sure you are the CEO and sole owner of your own business and make more than I do. If you’re not, then kindly STFU in regards to denigrating my position at my firm. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/216 "2010-09-10T02:01:54Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > 1. What are the specific facts that lead you to believe I was “blindsided”? Your OP made it sound as if the request was unexpected. One would expect that such a request would have been run by the management (the partners) of a company before it was sent. You had no opportunity to respond with a picture of your two-year-old before you got the email? > [@](#): > > 1. I’m sure you are the CEO and sole owner of your own business and make more than I do. If you’re not, then kindly STFU in regards to denigrating my position at my firm. Certainly I am not the CEO and sole owner of the business I work for; neither (obviously) are you. Do I make more than you? I don’t know. How much do you make? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/217 "2010-09-10T02:07:30Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > 1. What are the specific facts that lead you to believe I was “blindsided”? > > Your OP made it sound as if the request was unexpected. One would expect that such a request would have been run by the management (the partners) of a company before it was sent. You had no opportunity to respond with a picture of your two-year-old before you got the email? > > > [@](#): > > > > 1. I’m sure you are the CEO and sole owner of your own business and make more than I do. If you’re not, then kindly STFU in regards to denigrating my position at my firm. > > Certainly I am not the CEO and sole owner of the business I work for; neither (obviously) are you. Do I make more than you? I don’t know. How much do you make? 1. You sure about that? I don’t see how my OP made it sound as if the request was unexpected. It could be the case that a senior partner sends this same email every day, and it pisses me off every day, but only chose now to post the OP. 2. About half a shitload per year. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/218 "2010-09-10T02:17:01Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > 1. You sure about that? I don’t see how my OP made it sound as if the request was unexpected. It could be the case that a senior partner sends this same email every day, and it pisses me off every day, but only chose now to post the OP. I’ll grant that; it’s possible. > [@](#): > > 1. About half a shitload per year. I make enough money to pay my bills and support my vices. So, apparently, do you. How does that make one of us better than the other? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/219 "2010-09-10T02:25:10Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > 1. About half a shitload per year. So… shit? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/220 "2010-09-10T02:26:36Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Also, thank you for typifying the liberal douche position on several issues (e.g., taxes–I ain’t rich, let them rich folks pay taxes!). “Liberal douche.” I’d like to see you in a one-on-one knock-down drag-out debate with a “liberal douche.” You’d be heaving vinegar for weeks afterwards. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132.md?page=12)